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docbob

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Howdy,
Wondering if anyone has any info on the Bridger Hawken rifle the Montana Historical Society commissoned GRRW to build. It's my understanding that they only built 73 of them before going out of business.
Thanks for your time,
docbob
 
Doc White may be able to give you the exact number.

Some information I've found in the literature:

In December, 1975, the Montana Historical Society launched an intensive campaign to purchase Charlie Russell’s masterpiece, When the Land Belonged to God, from the painting’s original owner, Helena’s storied Montana Club. As part of this fund raising campaign the Montana Historical Society contacted GRRW about manufacturing an exact replica of the original Sam Hawken rifle in the Society’s collection that once belonged to Jim Bridger. The Society loaned the original Bridger Hawken to GRRW to copy. The Bridger Hawken Commemorative was offered for sale by the Montana Historical Society in 1977 (see advertisement below). The ad said that it would be a limited edition of 1500 rifles, but the actual number built and sold appears to be a fraction of this number, maybe less than 100. In fact, the Montana Historical Society acquired the Russell painting in May, 1977, after having raised $150,000 from the campaign and receiving another $300,000 directly from the State of Montana. How long the Society continued to raise funds through the sale of the Bridger Hawken Commemorative after May is uncertain.

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The one I own is SN 42. Two others I know of are lower numbers.

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I saw a post once that said the contract that GRRW had with the Montana Historical Society was one of the reasons they went out of business because it cost more to make the rifle than the contract price. They probably lost money on some of the guns, but I question whether this put them out of business based on the low number made and sold and the timing ('77 vs '80). Doc White says on his website that it was "Carter's inflationary recession [that] killed the Co. in 1980." I think this is the real reason based on the rapid price increase of finished Hawken rifles due to the double digit inflation at the time (see graph below). They were probably having trouble making money on all the Hawken rifles they sold, not just the Bridger Commemorative. Plus they were having trouble competing for market share with the mass produced rifles from Thompson Center and CVA and the other semi-custom makers entering the market such as The Hawken Shop, Green River Forge, and Ozark Mtn Arms. In personal communication, Doc readily admits that he never made any money on his various firearm ventures, and he only started them up because of his love of guns.

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Meek,
Many thanks for all the information, particularly why they wanted to build these rifles in the first place.
I got mine many years ago thru an estate sale. It came with the blanket rifle case, in a wooden box with leather hinges & all the paper work. I'm the third owner. The first owner had to pay 600 down and 600 on delivery. I don't have any idea what they are worth today. Until now, I didn't have any idea where any of the others were.
1776, She's got a .54 bore, barrel - 34" x 1 1/8" across the flats. DocBob
 
Rifleman 1776,
My wife and I were down in your country around a month ago, visiting her sister/husband. They live in Lakeview and we drove over to Mountain Home to eat in a good resturant. Don't recall the name but it started with a C. Too bad I didn't know the info I do now, we could have met. I'm 'bout your age.
DocBob
 
docbob said:
Rifleman 1776,
My wife and I were down in your country around a month ago, visiting her sister/husband. They live in Lakeview and we drove over to Mountain Home to eat in a good resturant. Don't recall the name but it started with a C. Too bad I didn't know the info I do now, we could have met. I'm 'bout your age.
DocBob


Do come again. Casa Fusco is always open to friends.
You may have been at Coulton's. Good place to eat.
 
That's great info MM, and I greatly appreciate it.

I have one of their (non-Bridger) Hawkens, and it's a treat for the eye and the shoulder, but awfully hard on whatever you point it at. Considering the quality of my build, I can just imagine how fine those Bridgers must be.

For the record mine is 58 cal, 36" tapered barrel, 1 1/8" x 1". The stock is highly figured maple, and mine is a lefty stock with a right handed lock. Weight is 12 pounds. Any shots that don't land on the mark are most certainly driver error.
 
Love my GRRW Hawken too... not a Jim Bridger model, but a beautiful piece of very functional art..
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Rifleman1776,
Yup, that wuz the place...Colton's. Good food & good service, too!

DocBob
 
Rifleman1776,

DocBob provided the specifications of the Bridger Commemorative Hawken. The wood case and blanket cover were standard along with a certificate and other paper work. I can only add that the barrels were straight 1-1/8", no taper. I understand the original has a tapered barrel, 1-1/8" to 1". Not sure why GRRW didn't use a taper barrel on the Commemorative as they made them as BrownBear's rifle exemplifies. Their ads and catalogs also advertised tapered barrels. I can only speculate that the straight octagon barrels were more popular in the 1970's and/or they were cheaper to make than the tapered barrels. One other aspect of the Commemorative Hawken I've seen, they were made with plain (no curl) maple stocks like the original.

An interesting tidbit on the GRRW Hawkens, their first Hawkens built in 1973 used a variety of component parts and show an evolution in the pattern that continued up to at least SN 20. Some time after that number, they established a standard pattern that's easily identified because it uses a William Morgan lock, a Douglas barrel (GRRW didn't start making their own barrels until some time in 1974), a breech plug & tang, butt plate, and trigger guard all from Cherry Corners, triggers I've seen on this pattern can be Cherry Corners or Ron Long. This early pattern Hawken also had a handmade, two-piece nosecap. The other small parts were often made in-house such as the rib, wedges, barrel staples, and ramrod pipes. This is what the early pattern looks like:

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Even though their ads called this a S. Hawken rifle, it could also pass as a J&S Hawken with the name cast in the lock and the two-piece nosecap.

About 1977, after studying the original Bridger Hawken and other original Hawkens, they changed their halfstock pattern to the classic late period Sam Hawken similar to the original Bridger, Carson, Johnston and others. Here's a pair for example:

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BrownBear, thanks for posting the information on your rifle. GRRW quality steadily improved from their first rifles in 1972 'til the end in 1980. Their riflesmiths took a lot of personal pride in their work, and it shows. Some in my collection rival custom rifles of the day. Your rifle is particularly interesting having a left hand stock with right hand lock. I know of one other LH factory made rifle. It is a Leman Trade Rifle and has a LH lock. Could you post or send me some pictures of your rifle? I would like to have copies for my reference.

Rescue Mike, thanks for posting your picture. If I may make a correction, based on what I can see in the picture, your rifle is an example of GRRW's Leman Trade Rifle. These were GRRW's best sellers. Doc White states on his website that just short of 3000 of the Leman Trade Rifles were made.

I've seen halfstock Hawkens with SN's in the low 600's and suspect that 700-800 were made. Their other models were made in much lower numbers.
 
Mtn. Meek said:
BrownBear, thanks for posting the information on your rifle. GRRW quality steadily improved from their first rifles in 1972 'til the end in 1980. Their riflesmiths took a lot of personal pride in their work, and it shows. Some in my collection rival custom rifles of the day. Your rifle is particularly interesting having a left hand stock with right hand lock. I know of one other LH factory made rifle. It is a Leman Trade Rifle and has a LH lock. Could you post or send me some pictures of your rifle? I would like to have copies for my reference.

It will be a few days before my schedule clears and I can get to it, but I'm happy to do so. It was built by Ron Paull, who I know personally. In fact his name is on the underside of the barrel. To the best of his recollection it was a custom order, but he wants to look at it again to refresh his memory. Even though he lives here on Kodiak now, we're yet to make that happen.
 
Looking forward to it, BrownBear. I'm always interested in seeing other GRRW rifles, especially one made by Ron Paull.

I was fortunate enough to acquire on of Ron's rifles not long ago. Here are some pics of it.
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It has been used, but not abused. The normal wear patterns on a working rifle like this give it character. It has Ron's makers mark and his initials stamped on the barrel. I contacted him by email and sent him pictures of it. He said he was getting into building rifles again which was good to hear.

By the way, this rifle is what I call a "transition" Hawken between the early pattern with the Morgan lock and the late Sam Hawken pattern like the Bridger. Note that this rifle is dated with the year of manufacture. That and the serial number place it between the two established patterns. It still retains the two-piece nosecap, the Cherry Corners plug & tang, and butt plate of the early pattern. It has a GRRW made barrel and a Ron Long lock which will be standard on the late pattern to come within a year. The barrel is .58 caliber, 36" long, and 1" atf straight octagon.
 
Rescue Mike,

Can you give us some particulars on your Leman? It's kind a hard to tell in the photo, but looks like your rifle has a Siler mountain lock. It that right? GRRW used the Bob Kern lock with the non-traditional, but fully functional and reliable, coil spring on the first 1000 (plus or minus) Leman halfstock rifles. When they finally ran out of them, they started using Ron Long and the Siler mountain locks. I haven't kept a count, but seems like I've seen the latter two in about equal numbers. It's possible that the Ron Long was used more in the mid-70's and the Siler lock in the late-70's, but this is just a guess.

Does your rifle have a makers mark on it? If it does can you describe it for us? What is the caliber and the serial number range, if you don't mind sharing.
 
I'll post about it.. interesting story I just learned.. Rather not hijack the thread..
 
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