So which of the two vices is the better quality, has better adaptability, and other pluses? OR---are they the same bird, just different colors? I took a picture of one and compared it to the other on my computer screen. Other than color, both look the same, same curves, and other distinguishing features. The one from Grizzly retails at $157, on sale for $130, and they offer a discount promotion of 5% for over $50 purchase, final cost around $123.00. Woodrivers price is $155.00 retail, no on sale/discount. I'd be willing to pay the extra $32 for the Woodriver if better quality/features, but they look like the same horse, just different paint.