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Stophel

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Thank you, Benvenuto!

For those wishing to get their linseed oil varnishes to dry, and you lack sunlight (a requirement), what do you do? Well, you need the UV light that is in sunlight.

I set up some Blacklights to see if that would work on my "period correct" linseed oil varnish. Well, it does work, but very, very slowly. Benvenuto mentioned that halogen bulbs put out UV-B (the light that gives you a suntan). The Halogen bulb packages all say to not use the bulb without the UV filter glass... :hmm:

Well, I bought myself an $11 halogen work light with a 500 watt bulb (gadzooks! there's actually recoil when you turn them suckers on! Some radio stations don't put out as much power!). I also bought a 300w bulb to put in it. I set it up in front of my stock, which is in front of my high-tech scrap wood board and aluminum foil reflector and turned 'er on. I am moving the light higher and lower every hour to put light on different areas of the stock, and to prevent overheating. IT WORKS. In the last few hours, it has dried more than it has in the last few days, even when setting the stock out in the sun. (The highs here over the last week or so have only barely gotten above freezing. I had already been told that down to about 40 degrees it was worthwhile to put the stock out in the sun, but below that, you had just as well keep it inside). It's like a warm, sunny day inside my shop!

Just don't look at the light, and keep your exposure to a minimum. I'm only in there long enough to check the varnish and move the light.
 
UV brings out the color in Claro walnut, too. And those lights make good photo lights. Handy things, halogen work lights.

Except they're too bloody hot.
 
:thumbsup:
glad my "mine of useless information" that I call a brain has paid off for you...

And folks, if you try this at home, make sure you stay out of the rays! Up close to that light you are gonna get skin and eye damage for sure, trust me!

And BTW only "medical" solariums use UV-B. Good for some rare skin conditions, but you have to sign a waiver for the skin-cancer risk. All others use UV-A precisely because of this danger. :)
 
I'm still not fully dry yet, and the light is NOT a true replacement for a warm sunny day, BUT, if there are no warm sunny days in the forecast, you're pretty much stuck with this. I'm HOPING by the end of the day today, it will be fully dry...no sticky fingerprinting...

I have the light sitting maybe a couple of feet away from the stock (that's all the room I have...). With the 300w bulb, the stock will, over about an hour, get pretty warm (not really hot, but warm). I'd be afraid that 500w sucker would set the stock on fire! :shocked2: This is why I have to keep going out and moving the light around, to keep the stock from getting HOT. You CANNOT just set the light up and leave it!
 
Or we could Mail our stocks to Zonie in sunnny Arizona, and let him finish drying them for us. :rotf: Bill
 
Now there's an idea!

I could rent out little chunks of my back yard for curing folks finishes.

Need a slogan though. How about
"Yer gun's not dun w'out sum Arizonie Sun!"
Why, hell, I'd even throw in a nice Navel Orange off my 80 year old Orange trees! :grin:
 
Zonie said:
Now there's an idea!

I could rent out little chunks of my back yard for curing folks finishes.

Need a slogan though. How about
"Yer gun's not dun w'out sum Arizonie Sun!"
Why, hell, I'd even throw in a nice Navel Orange off my 80 year old Orange trees! :grin:

Wall jest as long as tha orangees on it wern't no 80 yar old too! :hmm:

Davy
 
I'm actually going to update my preliminary report on the lights. After fooling with them for a few days, I don't think I'm getting much out of them after all. At first, it seemed quite promising, but now, I don't know. The results are inconsistent. :( I'll keep experimenting.

Today, I have sun, though, so my stock is sitting outside, even though it is only about 40 degrees.
 
I believe actually, that the blacklights work better! I'm going to build me a box and put four blacklights in it for stock drying.

The blacklights seem more effective at drying the oil.
 
I am doing an experiment right now. I saturated two cleaning patches with linseed oil. I put one in front of a long-wave UV light and the other behind the light. I want to see if the one in front of the light dries any faster.
 
Der Fett' Deutscher said:
I believe actually, that the blacklights work better! I'm going to build me a box and put four blacklights in it for stock drying.

The blacklights seem more effective at drying the oil.

Well ... I guess ya could go ahead and throwed in some Jimi Hendrix posters too and have a real "Experience"! :rotf:

Davy
 
What, has the sun quit shining in your part of the world? Why not just put the patching o a cookie sheet, and put it on top of the car, or out on a patio in the sunlight. It should be dried in a couple of hours at most.
 
Sounds like a Red Green thing! Quick get the duct tape! That way when you forget about where you put the cookie sheet, I won't blow off the roof of the car!! :grin:
 
paulvallandigham said:
What, has the sun quit shining in your part of the world? Why not just put the patching o a cookie sheet, and put it on top of the car, or out on a patio in the sunlight. It should be dried in a couple of hours at most.

It's about 20 degrees F. outside right now in my neck of the woods, so I don't think it would dry very fast. There was over a foot of fresh snow about 50 miles to our west yesterday.
 
I saw on the news this morning you guys have about a foot of snow, and strong winds to move it.
The storm gets here in Ohio sometime tonight.
We did have a beautiful weekend both days lots of sun. I did get to use some of that sun on a stock that I had rubbed in some purified linseed oil on.

Regards, Dave
 
Then try putting the cookie sheet in a sunlit window for an afternoon. Surely your cave must have a window that faces south?
 
I do have a nice bay window with a shelf, but it has been pretty cloudy the last few days. :snore: I'll give it a try if the sun starts shining.
 
Not only does UV light dry linseed oil, it polymerizes it.

There are unsaturated fatty acids in linseed oil that are converted to free radicals by UV light, the radical reacts with another unsaturated fatty acid to create a crosslink between the two molecules generating a new radical, which in turn can react with another unsaturated fatty acid...........you end up with a polymer.

This why painters cut exterior oil base paints with linseed oil, after a few weeks in the sun the polymer gives the paint a more durable finish.

If you just want to dry things a heat lamp (infrared lamp) will work, but if you want to cure the finish a tanning lamp (UV lamp) is better. Could get the best of both worlds with each type of lamp. :grin:
 
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