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As regards bore of older guns I have seen wheellocks (German) in an art museum which looked to be about ten gauge. With enough velocity they should be able to smash through some plate armor - but that is a bunch of "ifs". On the other hand a winder point of contact can reduce a tendency to penetrate as lbs/square inch is lower. But then again it's a matter of tensile or shear strength, etc, in how a piece of metal holds up. Everyone dealt with those problems by making better powder, better rifles/muskets, and using perhaps harder alloy lead. As is the case with modern weapons there is a big race between armor and penetrators as was the case with arrows and bolts.

Crossbow bolts were made long ago with the issue of deflection in mind as a blunt cone point with four penetrating "wings" (to dig in and prevent deflection) were developed probably soon after plate armor appeared.

I have a couple presumably early 19th century barrels in 11/16" and 13/16" bores, 35" and 36" long. One is marked "London". One has a hooked breech, one is apparently flint, possibly welded up and centerpunched for drilling and the other is integral percussion with a 45 degree angle screw-in nipple provision. One of these is half-stock ribbed with two ferrules. Can't imagine why the bores were that big for the time frame but this suggests a less than common sporting use. Then again the Suhl muskets in 1865 were 20mm or about .78 caliber. I had one once. My barrels are part octagon whereas military barrels were normally just plain round.

These could have fired a discarding sabot bolt had anyone discovered a need for that kind of penetration. It is done today with tank ammunition.
 
Large bore sizes were equall to "better" during much of firearm history maybe up till 1964 or so? I have seen mention of the fact that some Europeans often thought it best to make the NDN trade guns or any guns given to those who were allied, to be of a smaller bore than the Europeans basic gun so as not to be out gunned shoul the certain NDNs alliance change, I don't know how much there is to this but it makes sense by 17th 18th lines of reasoning
 
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