Heavy Conicals in 1858 Pietta

[rodwha]

Reshape the hammer's nose. Mine works rather well now. Mine needed a little off of the bottom to fit more firmly.

 

[Capnballhunter]

Reshape the hammer's nose. Mine works rather well now. Mine needed a little off of the bottom to fit more firmly.

Exactly what i plan on doing. How did you go about removing the hardened steel? I was thinking a dremel...or stone it a little at a time

 

[rodwha]

File.

I actually think Kaido's conicals are pretty good. I just wanted to see if I could "improve" it. Bigger's better, right?

Looking down into the chambers mine appear almost like a wadcutter the meplat is so big (.375").

 

[Capnballhunter]

Yeah. I just fixed the safety notch issue by filing a tiny bit off the hammer. Fits great now

 

[swathdiver]

I have a couple of late 2012 1858s and they have six lands and grooves with a faster twist than my early 2012 with seven lands and grooves and slower twist. How many lands and grooves does yours have?

As for the conicals, might I suggest you purchase and read Sixguns by Elmer Keith? Fantastic book!

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[rodwha]

I just counted my lands and found 6. It's from this past Christmas. Now I'm curious about the twist rate as I thought all of them were 1:30.

It's also beginning to make me consider a heavier conical than the 195 grn .460" long one I had made for it as I figured much longer than a ball and it might not do so well.

 

[Doug Attawy]

These were recovered from two wild hogs I shot with my 1858. I reamed my chambers to .001 larger than the diameter that my barrel slugged. My group sizes were cut in half from what they were originally.



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[swathdiver]

I just counted my lands and found 6. It's from this past Christmas. Now I'm curious about the twist rate as I thought all of them were 1:30.

It's also beginning to make me consider a heavier conical than the 195 grn .460" long one I had made for it as I figured much longer than a ball and it might not do so well.

Me too but I ran a tight patch through them and the old style seems to be about 1:32 while the new ones seem to measure 1:16. Side by side they are definitely different.

 

[Capnballhunter]

6 lands and grooves :wink:

 

[Capnballhunter]

These were recovered from two wild hogs I shot with my 1858. I reamed my chambers to .001 larger than the diameter that my barrel slugged. My group sizes were cut in half from what they were originally.



Whats the weight of those slugs. Did the hogs go down easy?

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[Doug Attawy]

There supposed to be 220g with pure lead. It's the ROA mould. I cast them with harder lead to get more penetration. I haven't actually weighted them. I size and lube them with a .452 sizer die and haven't noticed any bullet creep yet.

I'm getting 14-16 inches penetration thru hard bone. One of those was shot thru both shoulder bones and found under the skin. The other was shot thru the head and neck from a frontal shot and was lodged under the point of the shoulder. Both shots were in the 10-15 yard range.

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[Capnballhunter]

Sounds like pretty good performance.

 

[nkbj]

These were recovered from two wild hogs I shot with my 1858. I reamed my chambers to .001 larger than the diameter that my barrel slugged. My group sizes were cut in half from what they were originally.



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What are the specs on your reamer? Which type?

 

[M. De Land]

Actually I wonder why conical shooters don't just cast and shoot wad cutters in there revolvers as they usually are super accurate to 25 yards and would have the most weight for the short trip down range into an a game animal.
They usually peter out accuracy wise past the 50 yard mark I have read.
They would need to be harder than pure lead for hunting penetration though and probably loaded with a cylinder loading press, out of the gun. Just a thought. Mike D.

 

[Doug Attawy]

These were recovered from two wild hogs I shot with my 1858. I reamed my chambers to .001 larger than the diameter that my barrel slugged. My group sizes were cut in half from what they were originally.



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What are the specs on your reamer? Which type?

The specs were based off the bore size of my gun.

Standard 6 flute carbide reamer that you can purchase from places like grainger or McMaster Carr.

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