Help ID + Condition Please - Pedersoli Rifle

[muzzleloadershooter]

Hello!
- Help ID'ing this Rifle Please? It looks like it is a Pedersoli Pennsylvania model to me.

- Help, Condition, of the bore.. Will it need re-sized or replaced, or simply a good cleaning?

- How much is this realistically worth? If needing barrel resize or replaced is it worth doing, or simply sell and move along?

Thank you for any help and suggestions!

 

[springfield art]

I'd scrub the bore with valve seating paste. Might come up nicely. No telling what the breech and nipple connection is like, though. (The flash channel).

 

[Phil Coffins]

The bore is trashed, as is I’d call it a wall hanger. Reboreing or rebarreling would cost as much as the gun is worth.

 

[muzzleloadershooter]

I'd scrub the bore with valve seating paste. Might come up nicely. No telling what the breech and nipple connection is like, though. (The flash channel).

Thank you! Is there a way to clean that up if there is an issue there? Or simply dead and a wall hanger at that point?

 

[springfield art]

Don't know why people are so touchy about drag marks; it's not like it's a mint Python in a sealed box or anything or an original Colt antique.

 

[springfield art]

I'm not up on cures for corroded flash channels; maybe someone here can offer suggestions.

 

[muzzleloadershooter]

The bore is trashed, as is I’d call it a wall hanger. Reboreing or rebarreling would cost as much as the gun is worth.

Thank you. Do you know a price range of how much it would cost to rebarrel or rebore?

 

[muzzleloadershooter]

Don't know why people are so touchy about drag marks; it's not like it's a mint Python in a sealed box or anything or an original Colt antique.

Yeah I'm not a collector by any means. I shoot and use everything I own. So wear doesn't bother me. The barrel rest is of course a bad omen for it. But if it can be brought back to life with either just a great cleaning, or even a rebore or rebarrel. I'm open to it.

 

[springfield art]

Like Phil said, it's not worth doing that.

 

[springfield art]

The Pedersoli Mt. rifle I won recently at raffle, cleaned up nicely. It had apparently been fired once, then left alone. But the bore came up great.

 

[BoomStick]

Model is either a Pedersoli cub or scout. I think the cub is specific to Dixie (at least that's where I've seen it new). Barrel may clean, depends how long the rust has been at work. Valve grinding compound will take the rust off and maybe smooth it out a bit. Just don't go too aggressive on the grit. No way to know till you start scrubbing.

 

[Gtrubicon]

What a shame, was a nice rifle.

 

[Grenadier1758]

Some pretty nasty looking barrels can clean up and perform quite well on target. If the bore is pitted after all the cleaning, it will still shoot, but fouling will build up quickly. Cleaning procedures while shooting will keep you on the firing line. You won't really know until the bore has been cleaned to the best it can be cleaned.

 

[muzzleloadershooter]

What a shame, was a nice rifle.

Indeed.

 

[Gtrubicon]

I would put effort into it if I got it cheap, like $50 kinda cheap. I’d t would be a fun project to see if it could be made to shoot. I think I’d start with evapo rust in the barrel, put a new drum and nipple on it, polish the bore and see what happens.

 

[Des52]

I just got a CVA plainsman in a trade deal that had a rusty bore that looked like it had been shot and never cleaned. Used valve polishing compound and green scratch pads and it shoots good enough I don't think I am going to rebore it. I was thinking about making it a smoothbore for small game.

 

[ronaldrothb49]

My first thing would be can you get the nipple and clean out screw removed? that would give you a better idea of what condition the breech is in. Then clean the bore good, Wrap some 0000 steel wool on a cleaning jag and run it back and forth about 50 times. Not a lot of time or money invested in doing this but might make a big difference in what it is worth

 

[TNGhost]

The only way you are going to tell the usefulness of the bore is by cleaning it and shooting it. Use the valve paste as others have suggested. The main thing at this point is getting the firing channel/nipple up to snuff. That may be more of an issue than the bore.

I have seen lots and lots of bad looking bores in a lt of different kinds of rifles, and more often than not, with some cleaning and TLC they shoot OK.

 

[Frontstuffer070]

If it were me and after cleaning the bore still looked like a sewer pipe I would strip it down and send it to Mr. Hoyt. and have him punch it to .54 smooth bore. Heck for around 75 bucks you would have a shooter. And out to 50 yards a smoothie will surprise you. Well ifn it has a rear sight it will. Just my .02

 

[muzzleloadershooter]

If it were me and after cleaning the bore still looked like a sewer pipe I would strip it down and send it to Mr. Hoyt. and have him punch it to .54 smooth bore. Heck for around 75 bucks you would have a shooter. And out to 50 yards a smoothie will surprise you. Well ifn it has a rear sight it will. Just my .02

How much would it be to have it smooth bored or redone rifled? Thank you! I appreciate the feedback