My son has been after this guy for two seasons now. Saw him several times but couldn't get close enough (Bow) again this year. Tried to get him in 2003. After last year he found a shed and then a couple of days later he found the other one. The cape is from another deer. Friends tell him this guy may go 174 P&Y. He knows that this buck has survived the 2004 hunting season...so he'll be there next year.