Great story!Pigs in the wiregrass area of Al run in the 30-100# with the occasional 400# weight.Ever thought of a 75. cal Brown Bess or 12 bore fowler?Even a 20 bore could be practical just the gun's carry weight is a issue although?:Another idea is a buttstocked Percussion underhammer reliability & lighter weight.Points to chew on. :hmm:
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The wildlife biology/management community is beginning to talk a little about hogs and bear ingesting commercial feeds with growth hormones in the feedstuff.
The Hogzilla hog from up around Alapaha,Ga. is one example.He was a first generation feral hog from domestic stock and had been eating commercial fish feed-all he wanted-at a fish farming operation.The fish feed was heavily laced with growth hormones. I don't know the details about the 1,000lb plus hog from down close to Orlando,but that's cattle country down there,and the grain this hog was consuming probably was heavy to growth hormones if a cattle ranch was the feed source. I've managed timber/wildlife down in this area,and seen millions :shake: of hogs in the 80-250 range and the occasional 350+ pound one,but these had no source of domestic feed.
A year or so ago a record black bear was killed over in the Pocosin area of coastal North Carolina which has the wildlife biology boys talking pretty heavy. This bear was just shy of about 900 pounds,I'm told, and had been feeding off dead pigs dumped in a landfill by a local commercial hog operation. Again,the hogs were fed with feed heavily laced with growth hormones,and aparently were readily ingested into the bear's system simply by eating the dead pigs.Makes you wonder if,maybe,somewhat,the national obesity problem that we have might not be a little related to what the animals that WE eat in turn ATE :hmm:
The Hogzilla hog from up around Alapaha,Ga. is one example.He was a first generation feral hog from domestic stock and had been eating commercial fish feed-all he wanted-at a fish farming operation.The fish feed was heavily laced with growth hormones. I don't know the details about the 1,000lb plus hog from down close to Orlando,but that's cattle country down there,and the grain this hog was consuming probably was heavy to growth hormones if a cattle ranch was the feed source. I've managed timber/wildlife down in this area,and seen millions :shake: of hogs in the 80-250 range and the occasional 350+ pound one,but these had no source of domestic feed.
A year or so ago a record black bear was killed over in the Pocosin area of coastal North Carolina which has the wildlife biology boys talking pretty heavy. This bear was just shy of about 900 pounds,I'm told, and had been feeding off dead pigs dumped in a landfill by a local commercial hog operation. Again,the hogs were fed with feed heavily laced with growth hormones,and aparently were readily ingested into the bear's system simply by eating the dead pigs.Makes you wonder if,maybe,somewhat,the national obesity problem that we have might not be a little related to what the animals that WE eat in turn ATE :hmm:
Big thing around here now is killin um with your pocket knife. I know a couple of girls who are into that now. One has been hunting this wk.(local WMA is open for hogs) but don't think she's had any luck. She and her twin sister killed one each last yr. with a knife.
That don't intrigue me..not that I'm afraid..it just seems too personal or something.
That don't intrigue me..not that I'm afraid..it just seems too personal or something.
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what kind of woman hunts dangerous game with a knife? you must have some tough chicks down there!
Here's HuntnMa..with a doe she killed this past yr. with muzzle loader. She killed a boar hog with a knife last yr. She and her sister are serious hunters..HuntnMa works at one of the WMA's here in Central Fl.
It's really not that big a deal to stick a hog when you got a catch dog on each ear pullin in one direction and somebody holding it's hind legs up off the ground and pullin in the other. It's a big deal for a woman or a kid..a 9 or 10yr old kid stuck one with knife at one of the hog for sale hunting places around here..Slaughter Bros. I think. Anyway..it ain't for me.
It's really not that big a deal to stick a hog when you got a catch dog on each ear pullin in one direction and somebody holding it's hind legs up off the ground and pullin in the other. It's a big deal for a woman or a kid..a 9 or 10yr old kid stuck one with knife at one of the hog for sale hunting places around here..Slaughter Bros. I think. Anyway..it ain't for me.
Oh ya!And don't forget "Tailing"(another person yanks and holds the tail, sorta gets the hogs attention)the hog also.I have seen this in Alabama and Georgia.One can instead of kill'n just hog tye the ol' legs for a little "Catch and Release"(and ease of transport for stocking or butchering-freshness counts)! :winking:
When I used to catch hogs that's all we did was catch..we never killed them..we would either hog tie and put in air boat or just put some sand on your hand and one person grab by the ears and the other or others by the hind legs and shove it head first into the empty dog box on the truck..when you get more than one hog in there it gets pretty iffy weather or not one's going to come barrel'n out when yhou try to shove another one in. We would take them home or somewhere else and feed them out or sell them.
One place in La Bell, Fl...the Dudda Ranch..we would catch the males, cut them and release for better eatin next time. Boars with big teeth we would take back to the ranch and some guy from Tennessee would come and buy to release on his pay to shoot place.
But to tell you the truth..them stupid pit bulls were more dangerous than the hogs. Half of them will bite you right out of the clear blue and when two or three are on a hog..specially at night..they clamp onto most anything that moves.
One place in La Bell, Fl...the Dudda Ranch..we would catch the males, cut them and release for better eatin next time. Boars with big teeth we would take back to the ranch and some guy from Tennessee would come and buy to release on his pay to shoot place.
But to tell you the truth..them stupid pit bulls were more dangerous than the hogs. Half of them will bite you right out of the clear blue and when two or three are on a hog..specially at night..they clamp onto most anything that moves.
I remember a couple of years ago I got invited on a hog spear hunt down in Perdue Hill Alabama. The first morning, before daylight I was sitting on a stump outside the camphouse drinking coffee when the "dog man " drove up. He had several bay dogs in the dogbox and two of the biggest bulldogs I'd ever seen ridin in the back. They jumped out of the back and just came over to me and sat beside me, nuzzling me with their huge heads. I asked what breed they were and was told that they had American bull, Plott and Mastiff bloodlines and that they were brothers. Their names were Rocket One and Rocket Two. As I scratched their ears and bellies, the " dog man" said, "don't know why they are letting you do that, they usually bite everyone that tries to touch them. I decided to find another stump.
Later that morning we bayed the first hog and couldn't get into position to spear him. The guide said to turn the dogs loose and we'd catch him and just cut him. Well, they let 'ol Rocket One loose and I've neve seen anything as viscious and vilolent and fast in all my borned days. He was a white blur and in a nano second everyone heard a sickening "crunch-snap" as he hit the hog. No need to cut that one, The hog had turned and was caught by the back of the neck and it was his neckbone making the sound. Dead hog. In just a heart beat.
The guide had a handgun for back up and as we walked out to go find another hog I told him that if we got in a fix where I was between the hog and that dog and they had to turn the dog loose, not to waste no lead trying to hit the hog..just go ahead and shoot me.
Later that morning we bayed the first hog and couldn't get into position to spear him. The guide said to turn the dogs loose and we'd catch him and just cut him. Well, they let 'ol Rocket One loose and I've neve seen anything as viscious and vilolent and fast in all my borned days. He was a white blur and in a nano second everyone heard a sickening "crunch-snap" as he hit the hog. No need to cut that one, The hog had turned and was caught by the back of the neck and it was his neckbone making the sound. Dead hog. In just a heart beat.
The guide had a handgun for back up and as we walked out to go find another hog I told him that if we got in a fix where I was between the hog and that dog and they had to turn the dog loose, not to waste no lead trying to hit the hog..just go ahead and shoot me.
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Dixie Flinter said:
I believe the term 'hog rifle' came late and was refering to the use of the rifle to slaughter hogs in the pen by shooting them between the eyes--in that case the .36 works. I would not use a small bore for wild hog hunting myself.
Hoyt you're totally 100% right about Pitbulls going insane.Just last October up home we had a darn big boar hemmed up with three catch dogs on him one of which was a new Pitbull never hunted before with the other two catch dogs both of which were Pit/Plott/Cataluha bloodlines mixed. Big[url] mistake.In[/url] the fray with the dogs on the hog the new Pit turned loose and attacked one of the others that was on an ear.They're insane and about as dangerous as substituting a broken beer bottle for toilet paper.I don't want them around me period.
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O'yeah I remember the good ol'boys of Eastman,Georgia would setup a trap with tarps to funnel the hogs that were driven by dogs.They would seperate the young piglets from the sow for cutt'n then release.This would happen in the spring, by fall some rather large PIGS to hunt. 
I don't trust them pit bulls either..I'm sure there's some good ones...but they are a hard dog to read. Will sit next to you lookin like every things alright and the next thing you know your elbows in their jaws.
However..when you see them go at a hog..or horse, cow..whatever they decide on..they are like robots and nothing else matters..they just go numb, are oblivious to pain and everything else but getting their jaws on whatever they are after.
Anyway I'm going hog hunting this wk-end and take my .54cal. Bucks County..just got back from Talium stress test and no pain..so am going to get serious with the hogs.
I found a place during deer season..little over a mile walk and long stretch of wading..but it's like a barnyard with hog trails and cut trees everywhere..nobody's set foot in the area..public land too. Hopefully the weather will be good ..don't want to get soaked wading if real cold..
However..when you see them go at a hog..or horse, cow..whatever they decide on..they are like robots and nothing else matters..they just go numb, are oblivious to pain and everything else but getting their jaws on whatever they are after.
Anyway I'm going hog hunting this wk-end and take my .54cal. Bucks County..just got back from Talium stress test and no pain..so am going to get serious with the hogs.
I found a place during deer season..little over a mile walk and long stretch of wading..but it's like a barnyard with hog trails and cut trees everywhere..nobody's set foot in the area..public land too. Hopefully the weather will be good ..don't want to get soaked wading if real cold..
