Byzantine American
Pilgrim
- Joined
- Jun 7, 2009
- Messages
- 2
- Reaction score
- 0
Sorry if I soelled cartchege wrong, but does anyone have any tips on making them for a 50 cal percussion cap?
Thanks
Thanks
-
Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight.
We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.
Use this link to sign up please; https://membership.nra.org/recruiters/join/XR045103
home made cartcheges
- Thread starter Byzantine American
- Start date
Help Support Muzzleloading Forum:
StevePrice2
40 Cal.
- Joined
- Feb 25, 2009
- Messages
- 366
- Reaction score
- 0
howdy Chase,
no worries about the spelling, and here's how I make them.
I used a crayola magic marker about 50 cal in diameter and take some blank newsprint paper (cause it tears easily without the ink rubbing off) or any thin paper works and use a straight edge ruler to lay down on it to tear off strips - two sheets at a time.
I make these strips about 3 or 4 inches square nothing particularly exact and make a pile of 25-50 dpending on how many I want to fill with powder.
Using a glue stick, I swab one end and roll it up on the marker to roll over the glue and seal it and slip it about one third the way off the marker. Then crimp the end like the old style coin rolls and glue the last crimp flap.
Make a bunch like that then get your powder measure, powder and go to filling. For me, the closing of the tubes goes like this.
The tube is about half full with 65gr of 2FF GOEX which leaves a generous flap of paper to seal with. I squeeze gently the empty part flat and then fold it on a 45 degree angle which can go right or left and makes a 90 degree flag which I then fold back on itself towards the powder and bottom of the tube leaving a pointy tightly folded cartridge. I glue the flap to the powder filled part and hold it a couple of seconds to stick.
Voila! repeat 25 times and you're ready for a fun range session.
Haven't made any lately and have made horn and bone powder measures. Still it's a great way to add variety and quick reloading to a shooting session.
hope it was clear enough and good luck.
and Welcome Aboard!
Steve
PS- do a search and you'll find plenty on making paper cartridges.
no worries about the spelling, and here's how I make them.
I used a crayola magic marker about 50 cal in diameter and take some blank newsprint paper (cause it tears easily without the ink rubbing off) or any thin paper works and use a straight edge ruler to lay down on it to tear off strips - two sheets at a time.
I make these strips about 3 or 4 inches square nothing particularly exact and make a pile of 25-50 dpending on how many I want to fill with powder.
Using a glue stick, I swab one end and roll it up on the marker to roll over the glue and seal it and slip it about one third the way off the marker. Then crimp the end like the old style coin rolls and glue the last crimp flap.
Make a bunch like that then get your powder measure, powder and go to filling. For me, the closing of the tubes goes like this.
The tube is about half full with 65gr of 2FF GOEX which leaves a generous flap of paper to seal with. I squeeze gently the empty part flat and then fold it on a 45 degree angle which can go right or left and makes a 90 degree flag which I then fold back on itself towards the powder and bottom of the tube leaving a pointy tightly folded cartridge. I glue the flap to the powder filled part and hold it a couple of seconds to stick.
Voila! repeat 25 times and you're ready for a fun range session.
Haven't made any lately and have made horn and bone powder measures. Still it's a great way to add variety and quick reloading to a shooting session.
hope it was clear enough and good luck.
and Welcome Aboard!
Steve
PS- do a search and you'll find plenty on making paper cartridges.
4deer
36 Cal.
- Joined
- Apr 10, 2009
- Messages
- 73
- Reaction score
- 2
When I was trying to figure out how to make paper cartridges a few weeks back this is the video that really helped me out. It might not look very period correct with modern news and dates, but I just used a newspaper to make my cartridges which worked out fine and is free.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrlpNNrg7xI[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrlpNNrg7xI[/youtube]
ohio ramrod
75 Cal.
- Joined
- Aug 21, 2008
- Messages
- 7,473
- Reaction score
- 2,208
Excellant presentation for powder charge tube ! Many people like a slightly longer tube and place the ball in as well as the powder.Some use a second longer tube over the first to keep the powder and ball seperate, but still in the same tube. Some dip in melted bees wax to seal, some use a string to tie off the ends.I myself use cutrite wax paper for the powder charges and news print for shot charges for my shotguns.
Cartridges were made by every army at the time that used flintlock muskets. They never could have fired 3 shots per minute with their muskets without them. Anyone could roll cartridges and the cartridges could be stored in barrels. So it really didn't matter how long it took because the soldier wasn't necessarily the one doing the rolling.
The 75 grains that he used for his 75 cal musket was too little. Makes a whoosh sound when it goes off. Need a 100 gr. charge or more of modern BP for the Bess. 100-gr to 110-gr. is typically used in reenactments. Although the fancy roller with the round top and recessed end is nice, don't need it. A simple piece of doweling works fine, and you sure don't need to use a marble to make the bottom pretty. All it needs to do is make a decent seal so the powder doesn't leak out the bottom. If you really want to get carried away, dip the bottom of the cartridges in wax. Seals them well, protects them from moisture, and lubes your cartridge block to make it easier to pull them in and out. I think I've done that 2-3 times over the last 6 years (overkill).
So that the black powder doesn't leak out while the cartridge is being store, instead of just folding the top over, you tuck it in to the slanted part of the paper for storage. When you put it into your cartridge box, then you pull the piece of paper out of the tucked in position so that it's ready for use.
The little home made funnel and 75 gr. measuring cup is a waste of time. Either use a powder scoop of the right volume or use a powder measure with integral funnel so you can just tip it in when you're ready to add the BP. Usually the rolling of the cartridge and the filling of the cartridge are not done at the same time. You roll a bunch of cartridges and then you fill and fold them all at once. Our reenactment group has "powder parties" where everyone brings a couple of hundred paper tubes that they've rolled to a central location for filling.
If you saw the movie "Master and Commander" where they were getting ready to fight another ship, you saw them pop open a barrel of pre-made paper cartridges and pass them out to the men. That was how it was done. They were pre-made and stored for use.
To use the cartridge they would tear off the end with their teeth, prime the pan, pour the powder down the barrel and stuff the paper with the ball down the barrel with the ramrod. For reenactments, of course, the ball is omitted...:grin:
Twisted_1in66
The 75 grains that he used for his 75 cal musket was too little. Makes a whoosh sound when it goes off. Need a 100 gr. charge or more of modern BP for the Bess. 100-gr to 110-gr. is typically used in reenactments. Although the fancy roller with the round top and recessed end is nice, don't need it. A simple piece of doweling works fine, and you sure don't need to use a marble to make the bottom pretty. All it needs to do is make a decent seal so the powder doesn't leak out the bottom. If you really want to get carried away, dip the bottom of the cartridges in wax. Seals them well, protects them from moisture, and lubes your cartridge block to make it easier to pull them in and out. I think I've done that 2-3 times over the last 6 years (overkill).
So that the black powder doesn't leak out while the cartridge is being store, instead of just folding the top over, you tuck it in to the slanted part of the paper for storage. When you put it into your cartridge box, then you pull the piece of paper out of the tucked in position so that it's ready for use.
The little home made funnel and 75 gr. measuring cup is a waste of time. Either use a powder scoop of the right volume or use a powder measure with integral funnel so you can just tip it in when you're ready to add the BP. Usually the rolling of the cartridge and the filling of the cartridge are not done at the same time. You roll a bunch of cartridges and then you fill and fold them all at once. Our reenactment group has "powder parties" where everyone brings a couple of hundred paper tubes that they've rolled to a central location for filling.
If you saw the movie "Master and Commander" where they were getting ready to fight another ship, you saw them pop open a barrel of pre-made paper cartridges and pass them out to the men. That was how it was done. They were pre-made and stored for use.
To use the cartridge they would tear off the end with their teeth, prime the pan, pour the powder down the barrel and stuff the paper with the ball down the barrel with the ramrod. For reenactments, of course, the ball is omitted...:grin:
Twisted_1in66
