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[gus13]

Looking for comments/discussion for those serious makers, students, collectors, or historians.

What do you see?

As usual Jack, you find the most abrasive way to enter a conversation.

Crackstock, thanks for the links very interesting stuff. I have seen a few of them before but not so much a couple others! :hatsoff:

Again though, I believe the point behind the picture is proportion and flow, which can be translated over to any style you like. so even a horn with a double curve would maintain the same.
so a horn with a slight double curve, no "pinching" at the rings etc. should look similar to this:

 

[CrackStock]

Hopefully, this horn (still in progress) meets that hurdle:

The idea was to preserve the natural flow on multiple curves while still getting the needed utility elements to work.

The scratchings should compliment, but are not mandatory. Some are more interesting with no ink.

CS

ps - were you at Dixon's this year?

 

[gus13]

Not sure if your adressing me in regards to Dixon's, but yes I have been going for a few years now. I worked the guild table Saturday and Sunday this year.

As to your horn, this is a great example for this discussion!
if you look at the first pic you posted, on either side of the strap ring should be one continuous line flowing through the ring. so no area on either side should be higher or lower than the other. now it can be difficult since from one angle it's right and from another its completely off! and pictures have a habit of showing things that you didn't notice before! (don't ask how I know that! :haha: )
But I will also say I do like your engrailing! think ya done good there. :thumbsup:

 

[Sperit de bois]

Nice thing about making your own horn,do it any way you want,,it's yours.My first,, I didn't know any better,just I wanted a horn,so I just waded right in.
Now if you go for the PC/HC there are some standards that have to be met,,but there again it comes with time.
My first horn wasn't PC/HC but it holds powder just fine,it's mine and there isn't another one like it in any other camp..
My feet don't stink and my mother still loves me,,,,, :rotf:

 

[CrackStock]

My feet do stink and my mother is still waiting for me to grow up and become a scientist.

:haha:

On the other hand, you are right - the horn only needs to please me, but I do like to learn and am not afraid to obtain feedback so that future efforts are improvements rather than repeats.

CS

 

[CrackStock]

Actually, after more careful examination, the curve does flow through the neck. However, the horn transitions from round to octagonal neck. When one sees the center of the flats against the round, it works, but when one sees it at the points of the octagon, the edges are higher than the round.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l202/CrackStock/Muzzleloader Pics/IMAG0708.jpg

On the other hand, it is good for examination and discussion.

CS

 

[CrackStock]

Another view since it did not take on the earlier post for some reason.

 

[gus13]

Ah-Ha! I didn't see that in the first pics, sorry bout that! :redface:
I have always had a bit of a problem when doing octagonal sections, because of this very issue, should the flats be even with the rest or should the edges be? invariably leads to problem, since if I try to make the edges even I get too thin on the flats and vice-versa I run into the same issue I mentioned with yours, it throws me every time! what would ya'll suggest to remedy this?

 

[CrackStock]

Not sure which is correct, but I chose to file/scrape it so that the center of the flats flows evenly with the round. I have done this whether stepping the round to octagon or the other way and it seems best. If I were to guide upon the edges, it would seem too thin.

As to how to make it work, I was using various spring dividers to keep the measurements close and the looking from various angles and in various lights to get it right through the various multiple curves. But it helps to have someone else look because you get too close to the work and miss things that another person will see right away. If you mess up one transition, it is hard to recover. I can see one angle on the photo that I gave above that still is not what I wanted. I have been percolating on how to clean it up, but might just finish the wedding band and call her done.

CS