How do I install brass "spots"?

[bwhoffman]

asked santa for some brass spots, like tacks but with a 2 prong back. got some!
so, how do I install these as far as punching the leather?

 

[jasontn]

brett
i have used a lot of those and heres how i do it. i use a set of dividers, sharp points, and figure the spacing for the prongs. i dampen my leather some and use the dividers to scribe the holes. when i have the holes laid out i punch them with a fine leather punch, mines made from a sharpend heavy needle, then slip the prongs in the holes. i have a set of long tipped needle nose pliers, beading pliers, and i use them to bend over the prongs. next i use the pliers to crimp the bent over prongs and youre done. if you cant get the pliers around the spot to crimp it, i lay mine on a flat surface, i use a cutting board, and gently tap them with a tiny hammer. i use a tiny ball peen, again from the beading section of a craft store. they work good as decoration, and will hold 2 sections of thin leather together or hold a cloth backing in place on say a bag flap. i have studied some pieces made by kenny roberts, formerly of triple j trade, he used them on a lot of his shooting pouches and gun covers.

 

[bwhoffman]

Thanks Jason, that's what I was looking for!

 

[jasontn]

yw brett. you will like these in sure. i use the solid brass ones from crazy crow in sizes 1/8, 1/4/ and 1/2

 

[omarick1948]

Why not use the brass headed tacks?...Aren't they more correct for 18th and late 19th Century recreations?

 

[jasontn]

maybe he wants to use the spots he asked about? and he didnt say anything about recreating a thing. just how to use something he got. nothing about tacks at all.

 

[bwhoffman]

I got some nice tacks, I was wanting to try a knife sheath with them just to try!

was thinking about MAYBE tacking my cva mt rifle, but I dunno.... should leave it well enough alone!

 

[jasontn]

brass tack sheaths are easy. put a welt in the sheath and pre punch the tack holes. take some pliers, bend over the shanks and then crimp them with the pliers. while crimping put a piece of leather over the tack head so the pliers dont scratch the surface.

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[rabjr]

I want one those sheaths Jason. :grin: :thumbsup:

 

[jasontn]

ill house your butcher in one of em when it comes home

 

[rabjr]

I thank ya! :thumbsup:

 

[omarick1948]

maybe he wants to use the spots he asked about? and he didnt say anything about recreating a thing. just how to use something he got. nothing about tacks at all.

Your right!...But how come you explain how to use brass tacks?

Brett didn't ask for information about using tacks is right, but in your following post you explain how to do it and show a photo?...huh?

Never mind....I'm going to have another cup of coffee!

Brett,I think you got your answer...Good Luck!

Rick

 

[jasontn]

if youd take time to read in order i explained how to use brass spots first,

asked santa for some brass spots, like tacks but with a 2 prong back. got some!
so, how do I install these as far as punching the leather?

before you interjected with brass tacks,

Why not use the brass headed tacks?...Aren't they more correct for 18th and late 19th Century recreations?

therefore he became curious about them, stating he wanted to try a knife sheath, so i explained the use of those. maybe you should read in order first. or if your response has nothing to do with the question a person asked, maybe dont respond. this seems to be a growing problem here, a person asks how do i use this and someone says well why not use these or do this? all this does is muddy the waters and makes it harder for the original question to be answered.

 

[omarick1948]

:youcrazy:

 

[jasontn]

exactly what i thought when i saw your post about tacks. how a person could read tacks into a brass spot question.

 

[omarick1948]

OK....You De Man and you get the last word!

Have a Happy New Year!

 

[bwhoffman]

Let me correct this discrepency......

I posted a response....
"I got some nice tacks, I was wanting to try a knife sheath with them just to try!

was thinking about MAYBE tacking my cva mt rifle, but I dunno.... should leave it well enough alone! "


spots was the subject, tacks were suggested. and I responded with the above qoute.

when it should have read... I have some tacks. I was wanting to try the spots on a knive sheath.
I was thinking about MAYBE tacking my cva mt rifle....ect.

So I am the instigator in this!
Horner, you are a big part of this forum as well as Jason. Both of your individual insights is valuable to me and others. I just dont like the battles and especially when they cause hard feelings and at times folks leave the fire.
Please dont.
my poor grammer and punctuation AND swaying off the main topic is my bad.
Group hug all around, Okay? :surrender:

 

[jasontn]

no hard feelings brett, ill just bow out and leave this be. seems this whole forum has ran downhill lately anyway

 

[omarick1948]

Brett,....Your a good man and you too are a valuable contributor to this forum!

I'm sorry I opened this "can of worms" with my reply and didn't really mean anything by it, but probably should of worded it dfferent.

I have nothing against Jason.....hell, I don't even know him!...SORRY JASON! :surrender:

Now lets all get back and have a good time on this forum! :thumbsup:

Rick

 

[Andy Mueller]

Ok, well here's my disclaimer, I work on predominately American Indian stuff. That in mind, I usually use brass tacks for anything on leather, but I have seen some studs used and have done the same when convenient. I also prepunch the leather-seeing as the shafts are usually soft. i make sure to do them with a round needle because that tends to punch the leather as opposed to cutting it like glovers needles etc. then I push it through, tap it with a hammer an call it good. For tacks I usually pre-punch with a small needle, push the tack through, cut it off and run a small file one direction to make a burr that holds them in. Most belts that were tacked by the Indians were done this way and the tacks are still in after 100 yrs! so I think they'll hold for me!
Scouter