The last deer I killed with a smoothbore was a 20 yard shot; pretty typical. I'd say somewhere around 60 yards; maybe a little farther if my mojo is working. Truthfully, I'm probably not that good at range estimation. My shots with a smoothbore (and rifles, too) likely average closer to 25 yards; longer shots are rare indeed. While thinking, is that deer at 40-45 yards or is it 55-60 yards, shooting or not is a tough decision to make. When seeing a deer beyond the "real close" distance I suppose I juggle eyesight, how much of the deer I see, intercepting brush and what the sight/muzzle looks like superimposed over the critter. Shoot or no shoot is then decided.