How heavy is too heavy?

[TrailWalker]

I just picked up this pretty little thing: a .50 cal custom halfstock that tips the scale at a whopping 16 pounds! It was actually labeled as a “bench” rifle by the dealer, but I intend to shoot it offhand and use it for general target shooting, as I tend to prefer a heavier rifle. I can’t help but wonder if 16 pounds is pushing the envelope though. The halfstock percussion rifle that I typically shoot is about ten pounds, and I’ve got an original William Beck rifle that comes in at about 14.

What say you, ladies and gents? Just how heavy is too heavy for the purpose of offhand shooting in your opinion? Am I absolutely nut-so for thinking I can effectively manhandle this thing?

 

[wiscoaster]

Pretty gun, nice wood, but 16#!! Wow!! Full-length barrel rib; no wonder. How well does it balance? Maybe that's your main concern for off-hand. And just curious - what's the function of the back end of the trigger guard where it sticks out from the stock? Not familiar with that. Thanks.

 

[RiverRat]

My back starts to hurt just looking at it.

 

[Phil Coffins]

Well, any flinch will be slowed down!

 

[Rancocas]

My chunkgun weighs 16 pounds. Not at all suitable for off-hand shooting.

 

[Omahkapi'si]

I made a brass ramrod for my 8 lb Frontier and even that was too tough on the back. Can’t imagine 16lbs.

 

[PathfinderNC]

A musket lock on a bench gun? Slow ignition time offsets weight stability.
Not sure about that one.

 

[Tom A Hawk]

If after a day of trail hunting you wish you had brought along your grandson to carry the damned thing...it might be too heavy. I have a full stock Hawken in that category.

 

[TrailWalker]

Some interesting insights and opinions here.

I read somewhere that Harry Pope, (famed barrel maker and Scheutzen-competition shooter) once said that a man's offhand rifle ought to weigh 16 pounds and a woman’s 12 pounds, so there’s obviously differing schools of thought on the matter.

The rifle’s still in transit, so I can’t attest to its balance, but I’ll keep you all posted regarding my impressions when I have it in hand.

 

[TrailWalker]

A musket lock on a bench gun? Slow ignition time offsets weight stability.
Not sure about that one.

I was shooting next to a gentleman with a 1803-pattern rifle at a recent club shoot. His lock sure seemed plenty fast to me! He took first place (as he frequently does).

 

[The Miner '49er]

@TrailWalker that's a real beauty. Did you take enough cash with you to buy the gun carriage too? All joking aside, you found something worth having.

 

[springfield art]

I just picked up this pretty little thing: a .50 cal custom halfstock that tips the scale at a whopping 16 pounds! It was actually labeled as a “bench” rifle by the dealer, but I intend to shoot it offhand and use it for general target shooting, as I tend to prefer a heavier rifle. I can’t help but wonder if 16 pounds is pushing the envelope though. The halfstock percussion rifle that I typically shoot is about ten pounds, and I’ve got an original William Beck rifle that comes in at about 14.

What say you, ladies and gents? Just how heavy is too heavy for the purpose of offhand shooting in your opinion? Am I absolutely nut-so for thinking I can effectively manhandle this thing?

Beautiful! If you're strong enough to handle, go for it! I have a beautiful de-farb Enfield from Blockade Runner (Todd Watts) from about 20 yrs. ago; never fired, has perfectly fitted bayonet, but it weighs just over Ten Pounds! I'm going to sell it but not interested in shipping anywhere, face to face rather. I don't re-enact ACW, simply not needed and I don't care for the weight, frankly. Your rifle is a real gem! We all have our physical limits, I'm not muscular or bulky and could only use a 16 pounder rested!

 

[springfield art]

P.S; Your dealer was right and truthful to list it as a "bencher"!

 

[Larry (Omaha)]

I just picked up this pretty little thing: a .50 cal custom halfstock that tips the scale at a whopping 16 pounds! It was actually labeled as a “bench” rifle by the dealer, but I intend to shoot it offhand and use it for general target shooting, as I tend to prefer a heavier rifle. I can’t help but wonder if 16 pounds is pushing the envelope though. The halfstock percussion rifle that I typically shoot is about ten pounds, and I’ve got an original William Beck rifle that comes in at about 14.

What say you, ladies and gents? Just how heavy is too heavy for the purpose of offhand shooting in your opinion? Am I absolutely nut-so for thinking I can effectively manhandle this thing?

All men and women are not created equal when it comes to strength. I toted a 10 pound 44" barrel when I was young. No way today. Just do a little dry fire of about 10 to 20 shots. If your arms are not two foot longer, it will probable work for you.
Lots of luck
Larry

 

[Nav]

Most of my competition rifles are 16lb-22lb, and I agree with @Rancocas 100%. Yes, you can get a couple of shots off, but if sustained anyone will get tired, start shaking, and your accuracy will go to hell. That said, I do a ton of BP shooting off a bench, and for that it wouldn't matter. Just because it's not for offhand shooting doesn't mean it's not a hammer and fun to shoot.

 

[oldwood]

I shot offhand target , and silhouettes for 10 yrs. when young. I was 5 " 7" tall and weighed 200 lb. , and was told I was built like an anvil , OK , a chubby anvil. My offhand rifle was a long rifle .50 cal. Getz brl. 44 " long , weighing about 10 lb.. Great rifle , but a little heavy to hunt deer with. Sold it to a friend. My point is , No rifle is too heavy , if you can handle it. Dick , and Donny Getz were lovers of the .62 cal. , and suggested I make a hunting rifle using a .62 cal barrel. With a 38" length barrel , that rifle was still a traditional longrifle at 38" , but weighed in at barely 8 Lb.. Loved that .62 for it's accuracy , and knockdown power at longer range. I killed a doe at just under 200 yds. , the longest shot I ever made w/ modern , or m/l rifle. Only reason I had to quit that rifle was the 90Gr.ffg recoil , on an old aching shoulder..........Again , if you can use a rifle for it's intended purpose , who am I to tell you why to do?

 

[springfield art]

I like women as well as anyone, but if there's one that can man-handle a 16-lb. gun, I'd keep my distance!

 

[springfield art]

All men and women are not created equal when it comes to strength. I toted a 10 pound 44" barrel when I was young. No way today. Just do a little dry fire of about 10 to 20 shots. If your arms are not two foot longer, it will probable work for you.
Lots of luck
Larry

Could shave off couple ozs. by re-boring to .69 or even bigger!

 

[TrailWalker]

Beautiful! If you're strong enough to handle, go for it! I have a beautiful de-farb Enfield from Blockade Runner (Todd Watts) from about 20 yrs. ago; never fired, has perfectly fitted bayonet, but it weighs just over Ten Pounds! I'm going to sell it but not interested in shipping anywhere, face to face rather. I don't re-enact ACW, simply not needed and I don't care for the weight, frankly. Your rifle is a real gem! We all have our physical limits, I'm not muscular or bulky and could only use a 16 pounder rested!

Thanks for your honesty and frankness. I realize that some of our members are in their sixties and seventies (or older) and have infirmities that might not allow them to shoot a 16 pound rifle. Still… I recognize that a 16 pound rifle is a beast no matter how you slice it, regardless of your age and perhaps even physical conditioning. I’m 37 years old and have a relatively athletic build (5’10” and 185 pounds) so I guess we’ll see how it goes. Guess I better start eating my Wheaties and pumping some iron, eh?

 

[ChuckJonesWagon]

If it's heavier than what you expected to be heavy, then it's likely too heavy. But that's a weighty subject.

Removing or hollowing out parts of the stock doesn't have much effect on a rifles weight. That barrel you have seems mighty "thick". What's the flat to flat measurement of it?

And yes, I know my post isn't really helping anything.