How much GOEX can I safely store?

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Hello boys,

I just picked up a couple cans of GOEX from BassPro. The sticker price was $14.99 / lb. but it rang up as $19.99 / lb. Of course, they sold if for the lower, sticker price but if they really do go up to $20 / lb. I'm going to break down and order a 25 lb. bulk order from that place where Roundball shops ( JJ pyrotechniques?).

So... If I end up buying 25 lbs. at a time- how do I store it? Not all in one place? In old army ammo cans?

Thanks,
 
Hello boys,

I just picked up a couple cans of GOEX from BassPro. The sticker price was $14.99 / lb. but it rang up as $19.99 / lb. Of course, they sold if for the lower, sticker price but if they really do go up to $20 / lb. I'm going to break down and order a 25 lb. bulk order from that place where Roundball shops ( JJ pyrotechniques?).

So... If I end up buying 25 lbs. at a time- how do I store it? Not all in one place? In old army ammo cans?

Thanks,


$257.00/case delivered to my door is $10.28/Lb...just pick it up and walk inside...just have to bite the bullet one time and make the outlay as an investment and you'll save (avoid) almost that same amount of money by not buying it like you just mentioned.

My two cases are stacked on top of each other on the floor in the bottom of a closet in a room I use for hobby stuff, in the very same heavy cardboard shipping cartons that they are transported across the country in...if that's good enough protection from all that, it's good enough to stay in while in the closet of my house.

It is completely out of the way of any interference, and if our house catches on fire enough to get that room going and get all that powder ignited, my Wife and I will have long since been out of the house or dead from smoke inhalation...so I have no concern storing it like that.

Also, BATF regs says up to 50lbs BP for recreational use can be stored in single family dwellings without any licensing, powder magazines, etc. There are probably different criteria for multi-dwelling facilites like apartment complexes, etc.

I've read where an old refrigerator or freezer makes an excellent, lockable, insulated storage chest for gunpowders...even in a house fire...might do that myself if one become available locally...put it in the garage and store all my reloading powders + Goex in it.
 
Also, BATF regs says up to 50lbs BP for recreational use can be stored in single family dwellings without any licensing, powder magazines, etc.

Thanks for the info Roundball... That's what I needed to know.
 
I stored mine in an old refridgerator out in the garage. The fridge is pretty much fire proof, and for more security you can put a hasp and padlock on it.
 
Also, BATF regs says up to 50lbs BP for recreational use can be stored in single family dwellings without any licensing, powder magazines, etc. [/quote]

Not to play the role of Chicken Little here, but are you sure that law still stands? The guys at the Log Cabin Shop told me that federal law now says you can't store more than 5 lbs in a dwelling.......the other 45 has to be away from the dwelling in secure location.

I just want to make sure.
 
As John Hancock would say,

as much as you can hide and not get caught...

The neo-Committee of Safety may disagree so I guess I may be full of :bull:

Good question, I stocked up two years ago at the local going out of business sports store. I would also like to know the legal answer.
 
Also, BATF regs says up to 50lbs BP for recreational use can be stored in single family dwellings without any licensing, powder magazines, etc.

Not to play the role of Chicken Little here, but are you sure that law still stands? The guys at the Log Cabin Shop told me that federal law now says you can't store more than 5 lbs in a dwelling.......the other 45 has to be away from the dwelling in secure location.

I just want to make sure. [/quote]


If the Feds made a change, it should be on the BATF website.

Even the patriot act preserved all the recreational BP provisions that were in place before...haven't seen/heard anything that changes the Federal regs.

Maybe your guy was telling you about a state or municipality law, which could have been tacked on to the Federal laws?

If you find that the BATF has made such a change, it would be good to post it on the Forum.
 
The latest and greatest should be posted on the main ATF site...go to it here...
http://www.atf.gov/index.htm

Scroll down almost to the bottom to: Featured sites and...
Select: SAFE EXPLOSIVES ACT

Scroll down almost to the bottom and...
Select: STORAGE Q&A

If there's any new Federal rules in place they should be listed here
 
Glad to hear this, I was just thinking about ordering aroud 10 lbs. of GOEX ffg. I was also conserned with storing it in my house. I could not really store it in my shop due to humidity. The cans would probably rust closed or just rust up. We have 90-100% humidity most spring, summer, and fall days here.Keeps my fouling soft though. :crackup:
Rob
 
Glad to hear this, I was just thinking about ordering aroud 10 lbs. of GOEX ffg. I was also conserned with storing it in my house. I could not really store it in my shop due to humidity. The cans would probably rust closed or just rust up. We have 90-100% humidity most spring, summer, and fall days here.Keeps my fouling soft though. :crackup:
Rob

I tend to be over-conservative with most things, and even in my house, when I receive a case of Goex cans, I seal them 2-3 at a time in gallon size ziploc bags as another layer of moisture protection, and put them back in the carton
 
In old army ammo cans?
i don't think i would seal it in cans. i've always stored mine in something that would come apart in an explosion like a wooden magazine with a blow out panel. a can would make a great bomb. just my opinion, i sure as hell ain't an expert on BP storage.
 
The fridge i talked about should help keep some of the humidity out. As long as the cap is on tight there shouldn't be any problem. I live in Or and it gets humid here. I have had cans for years and it works fine.
 
In old army ammo cans?
i don't think i would seal it in cans. i've always stored mine in something that would come apart in an explosion like a wooden magazine with a blow out panel. a can would make a great bomb. just my opinion, i sure as hell ain't an expert on BP storage.

Actually, GI ammo cans are designed to burst easily for that same reason...the whole lid design is for that purpose
 
I had this dream one night that the 8 pounds of 3F I had stored in the pantry went off and there was a crater where the house used to stand ...... I woke up and decided to change my storage place. I dug a hole in the floor of the barn and inserted one of those old metal green colman coolers. The BP is now stored safely. If you live in an apartment, you are kinda short on options. In a house you could have a small storage shed outside. In that storage shed you could put on the floor one of those small dorm refrigerators someone is throwing away. The door seals would keep out any moisture and your BP could be stored outside all year like that.
Ohio Rusty
 
**SNIP**
Actually, GI ammo cans are designed to burst easily for that same reason...the whole lid design is for that purpose

Glad to hear it. I have 4 lbs. stored in one of those ammo cans. Rubber seal keeps it dry and it is a sparkproof container.
 
GI ammo cans are designed to blow at the seams and "flatten out". They are "shrapnel resistant" if they blow.
 
Regardless of what the Federal regulations are and I believe that it is still 50 lbs. What your state laws and local laws specifically say are the most important. If you want to get someones attention tell your local Fire Marshall (he by the way is god in reguard to local explosives storage) that your storing 50 lbs of BP in your residence. If your residence happens to be a multi falmily dwelling such as an apartment complex, etc. your going to get a very unfavorable answer. By the way I don't think it matters what the container is made out of, if 50 lbs of BP decides to explode your house will level out most definitely. Uncrichie...
 
flammable liquids cabinets (think they are fire rated - or designed to blow safely?) or fire resistant filing cabinets are easy to come by at auction
I'd be tempted to put big industrial castor wheels and a lock on a chest freezer tho'. Always helps if you can haul the powder out of your burning house QUICKLY. Also consider smoke detectors in the same room, and a big extinguisher.
:m2c:
 
I broke down and bought a powder vault on wheels. I store 25 lbs at a time. Actually at the rate that I've been using powder, it is only 25 lbs when it arrives. I usually use 1-2 lbs per week at the skeet and sporting clays ranges.

AJ/OH
 
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