Howa bout a Howdah?? show and tell

[canuckienns]

Thanks for your comment about "fuzzy wuzzies' I recently watched the old movie "Three white feathers" . Rather an extension of the River War. I saw the "fuzzy wuzzies". They looked like a hand full. I tried to Goggle up more information and ever tried Wiki, but in this woke world nothing came. I am an old colonial and everything east of Dover was a Wog. I would like to learn more about them.

 

[canuckienns]

and this "Howdah " type of pistol would definately straight out a Fuzzy ones hair.

 

[Rudyard]

" An 'ere's to you Fuzzy Wuzzy at your ome in the Sudan " Your a poor benighted 'eathan but a first class fighin' man; .An heres to you Fuzzy Wuzzy with with your 'ayrick 'ead of air! ' ', You big black bounding begger for you broke a British Square !"
Kiplings poem. But I don't think they broke a square just got into an unformed one at Abu Klee and non got out . ( Poetic lisense) . , Martini's for the sloshin of., Black powder but not MLs .
Rudyard

No Idea why the black line some PC tripe possibly R

 

[canuckienns]

I have a look of respect her, but why cant I look them up. I woke so controlling now?? If so scary!1

 

[Rudyard]

Woke ?? no idea of woke probably your loony left mob currently miss ruleing the US ? We have similar idiots here too .. Time they Woke up & got real. Brave new world ! pee on it
Rudyard

 

[Bad Karma]

Since I made no reference to anyones Parentage I am puzzled as to what point you are trying to convey. Do I waffle on? Yes . Do I know what I'me talking about ? Generally yes . I get more compliments than brickbats . If I bore you well I'me sorry I agree I am a frightfull bore . But what can we two do against so many ?..
Rudyard

Not at all... I have always enjoyed your contributions to the board. My clumsy attempt at humor was in reference to the gentleman who approached you with an ”antique wire barrel”... as you say, not everything that’s old is intrinsically valuable.

 

[Rudyard]

Dear Woodnbow . I see it was my mis interpretation . He was hot as the proverbial two dollar pistol As I'de unwittingly popped his dreams of a new Harley . Might have bought him a new muffler perhaps .
Reminds me of the gun I was offered in Cawnpore their eager faces sought my view . I said , ' ' Gangees ''. Puzzeled they ask ' 'Why for I say Gangees? '' I replied "Take it to the ghats & throw it into the Gangees ". They thought it a great joke but I was serious.
More interestingley I saw the message sent from Lucknow to the garrisson at Cawnpore . Still on the court house steps was or maybe still Is was a note written in Classical Greek as if captured no Indian rebel could ever read it only. British Officers could read it . Not sure if it was conveyed by Kavenhagh A civilian clerk of the East India Company though tall & blue eyed blonde he managed disguised as a native to take information to the relief column out and back to the besieged Residency for which feat he recieved the first perhaps only Civilian VC (Victoria Cross). The Residency was still left as a monument to the siege still is been 50 years since I last saw it .Sort of like your Alamo .
Rudyard

 

[toot]

yu are one lucky guy my friend too have such a beautiful piece!!

 

[toot]

Thanks for your comment about "fuzzy wuzzies' I recently watched the old movie "Three white feathers" . Rather an extension of the River War. I saw the "fuzzy wuzzies". They looked like a hand full. I tried to Goggle up more information and ever tried Wiki, but in this woke world nothing came. I am an old colonial and everything east of Dover was a Wog. I would like to learn more about them.

also watch DAD'S ARMY, it is a series comedy about the HOME GUARD in WW2. one of the retread's allways talks about fighting the FUZZY WAZZI'S" back in the day, with KIRCHNER!

 

[Griz44Mag]

" An 'ere's to you Fuzzy Wuzzy at your ome in the Sudan " Your a poor benighted 'eathan but a first class fighin' man; .An heres to you Fuzzy Wuzzy with with your 'ayrick 'ead of air! ' ', You big black bounding begger for you broke a British Square !"
Kiplings poem. But I don't think they broke a square just got into an unformed one at Abu Klee and non got out . ( Poetic lisense) . , Martini's for the sloshin of., Black powder but not MLs .
Rudyard

No Idea why the black line some PC tripe possibly R

There ya go Old Man. I fixed it for ya....

 

[SmokepoleSam]

The movie was "The Four Feathers", it's a great movie and it got 4 stars.

 

[canuckienns]

Quoting " DAMACINE, design is, KILLER, and rifled also!!! ". I put this pistol on display for show and tell and after further inspection, I believed the heavy DAMACINE, is rolled on a solid steel tube. Faux DAMACINE, design . Still beautiful in heavy and probably un used condition. Each barrel has a number 52 and 48, and two capital AA first one smaller and the second one larger. Other markings yes but ????? the Liege Belgium is the most obvious. The Liege marked barrel shows a crown and the larger set of AA markings, but the upper portion of the crown is a much weaker stamp and harder to discern.
"when lying wounded on Afganistan's plaines, and the women come down to cut up your remains, roll over on your musket and blow out your braines, and go to your god like a soldier." I am sure some poor Russians learned about all of that.

 

[Rudyard]

Well I rather doubt its fake rolled ect Damascus . You miss quote Kipling but the idea is conveyed . The Martini Henry is the rifle involved , no musket but thats just details .

I was in Afghanistan before the Russians invaded All I' fought 'was a desperate rear guard action against catiwumpus bed bugs in a shonky lodging house in Kabool . They won I retreated to the roof & slept under the stars
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Regards Rudyard . (Not the original one )

 

[Rudyard]

also watch DAD'S ARMY, it is a series comedy about the HOME GUARD in WW2. one of the retread's allways talks about fighting the FUZZY WAZZI'S" back in the day, with KIRCHNER!

My Grand Mother used to tell us active kids ,Not to" Run around like little' Madeyes '. It stuck with me . She was old enough to know of Kitcheners assault of the Madhi and the battle of Omdurman & Kartoum . Years later it made sense to a more learned Me . Jones the' Dads Army' butcher played his part as an old Veteren .

" E rushes at our smoke when we let drive " , an before we know e's acking at our ' ed .. E's all ot sand an ginger when alive ,an he,s generally shamin when he,s dead !
E's a Daisy. he's a ducky, He's a lamb . He.s a indja- rubber ***** on a spree ! .He's the only thing that doesn't give a damn ,for a regiment O British infantree . So ere's to you Fuzzy Wuzzy at you ome in the Sudan Your a poor benighted eathan but a firstclass fighting man !" .( ect Bit abridged here but you get the jist ) '
Cheers Rudyard

 

[toot]

Rudyard, thanks for replying to my quote on the butcher in DAD;S ARMY. he played it spot on!! and he actually injected a bit of OLD ENGLISH history. the Fuzzy Wuzzy were a fighting force. I don't know if they were the only force to break the BRITISH LINE or not? RUDARD KIPLING sure wrote enough about them, are there any pictures of them back in the day?

 

[toot]

Quoting " DAMACINE, design is, KILLER, and rifled also!!! ". I put this pistol on display for show and tell and after further inspection, I believed the heavy DAMACINE, is rolled on a solid steel tube. Faux DAMACINE, design . Still beautiful in heavy and probably un used condition. Each barrel has a number 52 and 48, and two capital AA first one smaller and the second one larger. Other markings yes but ????? the Liege Belgium is the most obvious. The Liege marked barrel shows a crown and the larger set of AA markings, but the upper portion of the crown is a much weaker stamp and harder to discern.
"when lying wounded on Afganistan's plaines, and the women come down to cut up your remains, roll over on your musket and blow out your braines, and go to your god like a soldier." I am sure some poor Russians learned about all of that.

yes, when fluid steel barrels came out they rolled it on, for the people who would only buy the real deal, not the new barrel's. some things die hard.

 

[excess650]

To my eye, the twist is obvious, so not fluid steel. Belgian proofs make it Belgian. Are the barrel grooves straight or spiral?

 

[canuckienns]

The barrels have spiraled rifling. I put a bore scope down there and it is nice and shiny. Obviously the Liege proofed barrels were made in Belgium, but I think the pistol was made in Germany. Belgium supplied barrels to the trade all over the world. Many of the best USA made double guns back in the day used barrels from Belgium. They sourced their best Damascus from there.

 

[Rudyard]

Rudyard, thanks for replying to my quote on the butcher in DAD;S ARMY. he played it spot on!! and he actually injected a bit of OLD ENGLISH history. the Fuzzy Wuzzy were a fighting force. I don't know if they were the only force to break the BRITISH LINE or not? RUDARD KIPLING sure wrote enough about them, are there any pictures of them back in the day?

Dear Toot despite Kipling's poem I don't believe Fuzzy broke a square . They did get into an unformed one at Abu Klee but non got out alive .Many ememies have broke Lines . But I don't think even Boneparte broke any Squares .The principal of a Square is that while men get fanatical enough to charge a wall of bayonets. A horse has enough' Horse Sense' not to do so as it can see its a 'No Win ' so they effectivley wont charge into certain harm . Hence the whole drill & deployment thing with forming lines & Squares .

For You Toot a change of Poets try
"The sands of the deserts sodden red ", Red with the wreck of a square that broke '
The Colonel's dead & the Gatlings jambed ' And the Regiments blind with dust and smoke "
' The river of death has brimmed its banks, And England's far and Honours a name ".
When a voice from a school boy rallies the ranks ." Play Up!'' Play Up ! ''and Play the game !.

Newbold from memory And its about the game of cricket and not nessesarely based on fact
Rudyard

 

[toot]

DEAR Rudyard, you my friend have one helleva memory.to recite that poem is wonderful, I cant get enough of Kipling's poems. were the BRITS's, the only ones to use THE SQUARE? was it a last gap hope, because it consolidated the amount of troops that were on the field in the face of over whelming odds"? not cricket, I get it now! do you know what & where the battle was where that he is writing about where that the SQUAER BROKE? if it did break, is it the only time in BRITISH history that it happened? if you know when was the first time that the square was used? toot.