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While being couch ridden this weekend I re-newed my expertise in channel flipping much to the dismay of my family. While doing so I was hitting the outdoor channel on many occasions and partially watched a few hunting shows. They didn't really hold my attention because they were mostly using in-lines if it wasn't a bow show. After about the second one a thought struck me... If TC, Knight and whoever else can sponser these things and get time on air why doesn't Lyman or some other traditional maker put up a show? I'm not saying it has to be a re-enacting show or a PC/HC (or whatever we're calling it now) type show. Just one that shows side lock firearms in action and taking game. These things are mostly advertisement anyway right?

Moderators if this isn't the right place for this, Sorry.
 
I was wondering the same thing. Actually I frequently watch a show that is sponsored by TC and all I ever see is their single shot centrefires and their inl!%e muzzleloaders. Seems to me TC still makes sidelocks. It would be nice to see one of their sidelocks on a show they sponsor occasionally.
 
I'm guessing there's a bigger market for modern than traditional that's why.Il ike the hunting shows,no matter what they use it's still hunting. :v
 
Just not enough of us to make a show profitable to them. I guess we could tape our own traditional hunts, and make them available to each other on forums like this.I no longer watch the so called (Outdoor Shows).They are no more than paid advertising. Same thing with the outdoor magazines. Even the articles hawk brands of guns and equipment.Cut out the ad's and see how much print you have left! :surrender:
 
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RetiredMedic said:
Side locks are not a big seller..

True, but they might be if they'd put a little money into advertising. Showing them in action might fire up some interest in a lot of people. Most people think of muzzleloaders as just a way to another season. After all, that's all they see on TV. If they actually saw some GPRs and longrifles cleanly taking deer with a big cloud of smoke, instead of just hearing that some guys like to shoot 'those old guns', they'd see there's a lot more to it and start thinking 'hey, that looks like fun'.
 
People like Fess Parker as either Dan Boone or Davy Crockett planted the seed in a lot of us. We couldn't wait to get our first muzzle loader and have our own adventure. That feeling lives in us today. The younger generation is more interested in shoot em up heros. Could you see Rambo fighting with a Kentucky rifle? :rotf:
 
Yeah...Davy Crockett, king of the wild frontier, if memory serves me right. As a youngster,I was glued to the tube every Sunday evening. Do you remember Davy, flintlock to his shoulder, leading an Indian as he crossed about 20-30 yards in front of him, then "klatch/boom" as the pan went off followed by a giant plume of smoke from the muzzle and the Indian crumpling to the ground? All political correctness aside and that may have been all Hollywood, but that shot made some 50+ years ago had a lasting impression on me as to the effectiveness of a muzzleloader. Tom
 
Simply put side lock guns are not the smart bet in modern gun making or salesmanship. Companies are going to put the bucks where it is going to do the most good and that is not in long rifles.

If all of a sudden flint and other traditional designs started to spark some real buying out there you would see the type of adds and shows you are talking about.

If these adds are really there just to sell guns then volume and easy results are going to win over a gun that you need skill (however easy to learn) every time to shoot.

I have stoped worrying about it. I am right they are wrong and that is all there is to it.
 
---seems to me that I saw in one of the films of Davy Crocket shooting an Indian climbing a rock on the other side of the creek in the back--- :shake: :shake: :shake: not very sporting--- :nono: :nono: :nono:
 
Well as was said in a few posts I would think that if the companies spent a little and did a few shows that demonstrated that the "old guns" still work just fine and effectivley harvest animals it might help the overall sales and take some of the wind out of a certain individual that is stirring up the pot against us that do things the traditional way.

In the same breath though I understand that (unfortunaley) it would be a risk to spend money on it for the manufacturers.
 
rubincam said:
---seems to me that I saw in one of the films of Davy Crocket shooting an Indian climbing a rock on the other side of the creek in the back--- :shake: :shake: :shake: not very sporting--- :nono: :nono: :nono:
I know he should have waited until he was quartering away.... :wink:
 
Heck, I just can not get into these hunting, or fishing, shows. I put them in the same category of TV golf, bowling or NASCAR. If that's is all that is on I will do laundry or balance the check book.
 
---yeah---if I was rich I could go hunting???where there can be gotten a 20 or 30 point buck walking 20 feet away from my house in a tree--- :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: yeah right--- :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
 
Well most bowhunting shows are about compounds,but there are still a few with longbows and recurves.So why not a show with sidelock M.L.hunts ? :confused:
 
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