no the one making the rubs that i found were made by a big buck, one of the guys that lives by me saw him one night late in his headlights standing in his garden. then my son and brotherinlaw saw him a couple weeks later crossing the road. all 3 of them said he is the biggest buck anyone around here will ever see or kill. they all said he is a giant racked buck with a drop tine thats about a foot long. my son said he has brow tines that looked like blades. i think my son killed the brother to him a few years ago, it has triple brow tines on both sides and he killed it in the same spot where this ones hanging.