I got that Spanish musket now (pics)

[toot]

I think that you will rely be happy with it! I know that I am happy with mine. keep us posted.

 

[Dave Fox]

To be ever secure in repose regarding the structure of the barrel, I'd contact Bobby Hoyt and have him line it for you. His prices are most reasonable, the work undetectable, and you've taken out a species of life insurance policy for yourself.

 

[Smoothbore12]

how much

 

[springfield art]

Maybe i should just buy a new barrel. Is there anywhere to buy a charleville type replacement barrel?

Looking at the Veteran Arms site, they fully state all arms are for actual shooting. Other makers may vary.

 

[springfield art]

Think the “home drilled” vent hole is a sign it came from one of the Canadian dealers. Don’t think anyone in the states sells them like that.
No vent hole means its “not a gun” and they can sell and ship to the USA. The buyer then drills the hole though I suppose there is a chance that someone was trying to fix a perceived ignition problem with a factory hole.

Just viewed the Veteran Arms site. They fully state all arms are for actual shooting, but with real black powder only. According to their site, they do extensive work on each piece, not just re-ship out the door.

 

[Youngblood]

Its a cool gun and it looks nice and points well, im just leery about indian stuff and would rather pay the extra money for the higher quality and peace of mind and safety. It was fun bringing it back to life and making it shine again though. I enjoy doing stuff like that. Its in the for sale section now.

 

[John Spartan]

Just viewed the Veteran Arms site. They fully state all arms are for actual shooting, but with real black powder only. According to their site, they do extensive work on each piece, not just re-ship out the door.

Sorry. Must have missed the “Veterans Arms” reference.

 

[FlinterNick]

Maybe i should just buy a new barrel. Is there anywhere to buy a charleville type replacement barrel?

Why would you need a new barrel?

Those Indian made barrels are generally oversized.

A charleville barrel will never match this stock BTW.

I would just send the barrel to a barrel maker, have them look at it and make some adjustments if needed at the breech area. Otherwise, I think the barrel is likely fine.

 

[FlinterNick]

Everything seems pretty accurate other than the stock.

The only place i know of that that has a 1752 pattern is the rifle shoppe, you’d have to ask him for the pattern (on paper) and then cut it from a blank, his actual machined stock will never work on this musket.

The 1752 and 1757 Spanish muskets were a lot like the 1754 Charleville’s but shorter. the stocks had a significant amount of drop and had a halfmoon shapped recess in the butt stock that the flutes drifted into at the end.

 

[Stantheman86]

There's nothing wrong with that musket. I have an Indian made P53 that shoots just fine, I have a YouTube video of me putting 80gr charges and .530 round balls through it

I only buy Indian copies of British guns though, it seems more "right " but if you got a good price on that flintlock there's no reason why you can't shoot it.

Like was said they ship undrilled to make it easier for the importer

How strong do people think the original Iron barrels were? That tubing is likely 5x the strength of an original



I joke around about "surviving " the Indian Musket because I made this video in response to all these people 2 years ago that were convinced these muskets were unsafe wall hangers

 

[springfield art]

There's nothing wrong with that musket. I have an Indian made P53 that shoots just fine, I have a YouTube video of me putting 80gr charges and .530 round balls through it

I only buy Indian copies of British guns though, it seems more "right " but if you got a good price on that flintlock there's no reason why you can't shoot it.

Like was said they ship undrilled to make it easier for the importer

How strong do people think the original Iron barrels were? That tubing is likely 5x the strength of an original



I joke around about "surviving " the Indian Musket because I made this video in response to all these people 2 years ago that were convinced these muskets were unsafe wall hangers

My Indian Bess barrel has a maker's name and you often see the city, Udaipur, (sp.?), so they're actually "owning" it in a way. Several years ago the owner of Veteran Arms very graciously gave me info about the barrels in response to my inquiry. I'd have no hesitation to shoot a good Indian musket "live", as long as it wasn't obviously a 'wall hanger decorator'. Veteran Arms states all it's arms are live- shootable; I don't know about other importers, just that I had a good experience with Veteran.

 

[Stantheman86]

My Indian Bess barrel has a maker's name and you often see the city, Udaipur, (sp.?), so they're actually "owning" it in a way. Several years ago the owner of Veteran Arms very graciously gave me info about the barrels in response to my inquiry. I'd have no hesitation to shoot a good Indian musket "live", as long as it wasn't obviously a 'wall hanger decorator'. Veteran Arms states all it's arms are live- shootable; I don't know about other importers, just that I had a good experience with Veteran.

As much trash as people talk on Middlesex Village arms, the owner tells you he sells muskets that are made for live fire and for a fee he will proof yours, and send you all the documentation. Middlesex, Loyalist and Veteran Arms sell them to be able to live fire.

People gripe about the barrels being a seamless tubing or being "marine tubing " however, people will buy CVA's made with mild, extruded steel and pressed breech plugs, and shoot them without a thought

The Indian muskets are just as shootable as any other repro provided you get them from a reputable distributor.

My only gripe was the rear sight on my Indian P53 is one-piece with the barrel and looks like manure. Otherwise, for $500 I got my money's worth. I put a #11 nipple on it and I drill targets at 50 yards with it using 777 or Pyrodex, and .530 ball just as a range fun shooter ... and not burn up any of my musket caps or supply of Holy Black