I gotta Idea!?!?!

[elmonk]

Ashelocoa,

Teflon is a Fluorocarbon,

When heated to a temperature where it begins to degrade it will give off fluorine. The heat basically depolymerizes it.

According to the engineers I used to work with the fluorine combines with any moisture to form an acid. Rather corrosive and not good to breathe in.
The PVC company I worked for produced a type of this polymer for use as a binder in photocopy machine toner inks. I did the QC work on the production of that product line.

Bill K.

 

[Stumpkiller]

Welcome Dutch Bill.

Flourine in Teflon, huh? That can make some nasty mixes if it is in a state that can be "fixed" to other molecules. Hydroflouric acid is one of the stronger acids - it's what is used to etch glass in milder grades! Hydrogen Flouride is a controlled substance and on the threat list for terrorists. It's a pretty lethal gas.

But I'm still thinkin that if Teflon is used in cookware it has to be pretty heat resistant. I'll have to take some of my plumbing Teflon tape and hold a match to it and see how it reacts. I'm sure that is just Teflon coated something esle, in any case.

But I ain't puttin none in my gun, anywho.

 

[musketman]

On the other side of the patch, could some of the Teflon powder (mixed with whatever) be carried down range and poison the deer you just shot?

And, in the long run, poison the shooter and his/her family via tainted meat...

I know you field dress a deer and all, but the projectile had to enter the body and come in contact with the blood, so while the deer is still alive, any substance attached to the projectile will be picked up by the blood and pumped throughout the dying deer...

For this reason alone, only natural lubes should be considered...

 

[jrdavis]

why not try Molybdenum Sulfide instead. Coat your patch the same way. might work good in your maxi lube...I wonder if black powder would stick to the bore with moly on it???

 

[Kenney Moore]

Howdy,
I'll conceed to the small amount of salt in the saliva, but the front stuffers I own do not produce rust. My point was what is the teflon for? Ease of loading or accuracy. From the other posts it sounds to me it is not worth even experimenting with do to the gasses produced let alone the possible damage to the barrel if it is because of ease of loading.
Maybe I'm just old fashioned and hard to change, but I stay with the ways of old. I like the interaction on this site to get out differing ideas, then the individual can sift thru all the posts and make an informed decision.

 

[elmonk]

Primitive 3,

>I don't know what benefit is being looked for<

Teflon patching is used by a number of target shooters.
If you lube patches with an oil you may have more oil in one patch compared to another. The same is true of moose milk lubed patches if one uses them while still wet.
Differences in "lubricity" from one patch to the next introduces a variable in the amount of drag the patched ball has in the barrel.
With teflon coated patching you are supposed to have the same resistance to projectile movement with each shot. Giving more uniform muzzle velocities through more uniform internal ballistics.

These Teflon coated patches are not for someone who wants to fire a number of shots without wiping the bore between shots.

Last year a pair of slug gun shooters sent me a sample of powdered Teflon. Somebody gave them a big bucket of the stuff. I could not get it into any sort of emulsion that would give good uniform coating of patches. At the same time they wanted to know how they could remove films of teflon in the bore. Repeated use of the dry teflon coated patches had left patches of it coating the bore.

For everyday shooting with ml rifles it can be more bother than it is worth. But in competition shooting it is popular.

 

[Kenney Moore]

Howdy Dutch Bill,
Thanks for the comments. If shooters are using teflon for consistancy and they know up front that the bore may have a coating form, then no problem. My point was to bring out to new shooters that there might be a coating form. I, in no way, was trying to put someone down that might want to experiment with the teflon.
:hmm:

 

[Zonie]

I believe Teflon is Tetrafluroethelyne.
Yes it does give off toxic gasses if heated high enough.
As I recall, somewhere around 760 degrees F is where it starts to vaporize. IMO it's a good idea not to leave a Teflon coated pan on the burner without anything cooking in it.
At's why ole Zonie allys leaves a mess o lard in tha pan, plus ye never kno what's a goin ta raise ta the surface fer yer brekfast in tha mornin. :: ::
Ah'm a bettin ye didn't think ole Zonie could even think of ah word that big!!

 

[Liver eatin’ Johnson]

I'll have to take some of my plumbing Teflon tape and hold a match to it and see how it reacts. I'm sure that is just Teflon coated something esle, in any case.

Why not just wrap each ball in Teflon tape and be done with it :huh: :hmm:

 

[Keith]

The advice with teflon cookware is to replace it when the teflon gets scratched or peels from the pan. It is hazardous to ingest. Carcinogen? I don't remeber who recommends that or why exactly to be honest. It does make me wonder why I am cooking my food on the stuff though. :huh:

 

[musketman]

If nothing sticks to teflon, then how do they get the cookware to stick to it? :hmm:

 

[musketman]

Now KEVLAR

 

[Keith]

Now KEVLAR

 

[RussB]

Why not just wrap each ball in Teflon tape and be done with it :huh: :hmm:

LEJ...A few years back, on someone's recommendation, I fire-lapped a bore using a Lee REAL, wrapped in Telfon Tape, with Mineral Oil and Rottenstone for the abrasion.
I only fired 10 shots, per recommendations, and cleaned real good afterwards. (I wipped between shots using mineral oil)
I'm thinking it "may" have worked pretty good, at least the bore was nice and bright, and the rifling edges were smooth as silk.
However, I've always thought that the next time this is to be done, I will just screw a REAL on a worm, or fitted screw, and hand lap it. I do believe that Telfon tape has a tendency to hold the abrasion better than just a naked REAL bullet dipped in mineral oil, then dipped in rotten stone..... Doesn't make much sense, telfon being as "slick" as it is, but it seemed to work.
Russ

 

[gmww]

Not to sure about Teflon but I see Brownells sells a product called Moly bore treatment paste item #080-916-002. It's $11.74 for 2oz. Supposed to absorb quickly and "coats and cures in just minutes." I wonder how that would work? :hmm:

 

[Zonie]

I just don't know what is going on in peoples minds when it comes to raising their kids!

Just a few minutes ago, one of them came into MY room, and bit me on the leg....Hard!

Just because I forgot to include her name in my comments about the name for Teflon.
Ok....Ok..... It's Polytetrafluroethelyne (PTFE)! Now, will you let go of my leg?????? Some kids, Ah says.

As for Moly, I think that's Polys sister and she probably bites too.

Over $11.70 for 2 ounces? That gives new meaning to "Holy Moly" doesn't it? :haha: :crackup:

 

[Dave Poss]

I'm new here and kinda dumb, so please bear with me.....If a person Teflon coated the INSIDE of a smoothbore and then used Moose snot as a lube...not only would the gun load easy but , in theory,...less powder could be used to fire the ball since there would virtually be no resistance!!!! It would sorta be like the "silk patch" that Hawkeye used in the movie last of the mohicans. Wow...heavy thoughts from a newbe! :hmm:... :sorry:

 

[roundball]

...and...just a couple more steps using things like moly coated bullets, smokeless powder, brass cases, hot primers, telescopic sights, etc, etc...and look at all the improvements there would be...
:: :: ::

 

[Claude Mathis]

...the name for Teflon.
Ok....Ok..... It's Polytetrafluroethelyne (PTFE)!

And, did you know that Gore-Tex is "Expanded" Polytetrafluroethelyne (EPTFE)?