Info needed for my Remington New Model Army Revolver

[Eli wooley]

Here’s what I’ve gathered so far by my serial number which is (43369). Its an 1863 New Model Army revolver .44, my question is that, i know the barrels are supposed to be 8” long but this one is only 4 1/2”. Could it be possibly cut down to be shorter? It has the sight notch also. At first i thought it was a sheriffs revolver because of the short barrel but they are a 5 shot and mine is a 6 shooter. The serial number on the barrel and on the frame under the left grip match. There is also a (D) stamped i to the wood grip and an (M) stamped on the trigger guard. The gun is in poor condition as the plunger and trigger are missing. It was passed down to me and i would love to find out exactly what it is so i can make a nice labeled and framed case for it. I would really like to know why the barrel is basically cut in half and exactly when it was made and if it was used in the war. Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!!!

 

[Brazos John]

That is COOL!
But, I'll leave it to the experts to give you accurate info on it.
Good luck with your search!

 

[Stantheman86]

If I had to guess, I'd say it was cut down into a little carry gun or stash piece after it was old and outdated.

I don't think it's as likely someone would cut up a newer, serviceable gun during the "percussion period " because guns were expensive but who knows. You may have an Outlaw or bounty hunter in the family that needed a hideout gun

It's missing some parts obviously and wouldn't have been shootable without a cylinder pin. The lack of trigger might have made it a "slip gun"

 

[Rifleman1776]

I would really like to know why the barrel is basically cut in half a

My guess is that people have always made things to suit themselves. I have it on good authority that Zook carried a shorter spear than Oog. BTW, nice collectors piece.

 

[ColonialRifleSmith]

Welp, you would need to post a lot more pic's. It would be difficult to be accurate without the gun in hand to examine it closely. Semper Fi.

 

[Eli wooley]

If I had to guess, I'd say it was cut down into a little carry gun or stash piece after it was old and outdated.

I don't think it's as likely someone would cut up a newer, serviceable gun during the "percussion period " because guns were expensive but who knows. You may have an Outlaw or bounty hunter in the family that needed a hideout gun

It's missing some parts obviously and wouldn't have been shootable without a cylinder pin. The lack of trigger might have made it a "slip gun"

Thanks for the info! It does have most of the cylinder pin but it has been broke off

 

[Eli wooley]

Welp, you would need to post a lot more pic's. It would be difficult to be accurate without the gun in hand to examine it closely. Semper Fi.

Where are you from? Maybe you’re close enough i could bring it to you?

 

[ColonialRifleSmith]

Where are you from? Maybe you’re close enough i could bring it to you?

Pennsylvania. Quite a ways from Texas. lol. Semper Fi.

 

[Craig Roach]

Looks like one of the guns the referred to as an Avenging Angel. They were cut off and loading levers removed to make them lighter and easier to hide. Here is one that sold on Morphy Auctions a few years ago.

 

[Eli wooley]

Looks like one of the guns the referred to as an Avenging Angel. They were cut off and loading levers removed to make them lighter and easier to hide. Here is one that sold on Morphy Auctions a few years ago.
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WOW! Thanks for the info

 

[ColonialRifleSmith]

WOW! Thanks for the info

Very nice info. Thanks. That's a tidbit I did not know. Add this to my Brain Housing Group. Semper Fi.

 

[Eli wooley]

Very nice info. Thanks. That's a tidbit I did not know. Add this to my Brain Housing Group. Semper Fi. The info definitely helped! Now i can make a proper label to go inside of the glass case ill be making

 

[hrt4me]

where in Texas are you located?

 

[Eli wooley]

where in Texas are you located?

Huntsville

 

[Blitz]

Looks like the but has been used to nail up wanted posters.

Blitz

 

[Phil Coffins]

To many old guns were considered to be of no value and neglected. Kids were allowed to take them out side to play with and broken and left outside. I as a nine year old was allowed to take the neighbors civil war sword out in the timber to hack on trees and brush. I did bring it back to him and he was pleased that I had enjoyed playing with it.

 

[Bad Karma]

To many old guns were considered to be of no value and neglected. Kids were allowed to take them out side to play with and broken and left outside. I as a nine year old was allowed to take the neighbors civil war sword out in the timber to hack on trees and brush. I did bring it back to him and he was pleased that I had enjoyed playing with it.

Sad, but my folks and grandparents would have tanned my butt if I’d been caught “playing” with a firearm of any description. I understand how people might excuse it but I certainly couldn’t…

 

[cynthialee]

To many old guns were considered to be of no value and neglected. Kids were allowed to take them out side to play with and broken and left outside. I as a nine year old was allowed to take the neighbors civil war sword out in the timber to hack on trees and brush. I did bring it back to him and he was pleased that I had enjoyed playing with it.

my pop would play quick draw with me and my brother with his revolvers, just load them with caps and we'd have shoot outs, slap leather sort of thing, my step mom would get mad and yell at us, good times
one of the neighbor kids had an old .36 missing its trigger as his toy gun, another had the frame and barrel of some old thing left in his grandpas shed
guns were ubiquitous and old guns were useless to most, the gun would get 'demiled' in some fashion by an adult and it would become a toy
we had swords that were old parade swords from our grandparents day
imagine a CPS agent of today coming to our neighborhoods when we was kids they'd have a fit

 

[Smokerr]

Sad, but my folks and grandparents would have tanned my butt if I’d been caught “playing” with a firearm of any description. I understand how people might excuse it but I certainly couldn’t…

Funny story, when I was in 2nd grade roughly, my dad decided that breaking of toy guns was not a good thing, so he bought me a Mosin Nagant (Russian WWI Rifle) out of the NRA sales.

Then we it arrived he looks at it and its, ooops, this is a real gun and I have been teaching the boys serious gun safety and I did what? Not that he could fully admit he screwed up, so he removed the firing pin and while I could play with it I could not point it at any of my brothers!

And it was so big and heavy I pretended it was a BAR. Equally funny I got a Bayonet the same route, probably paid 75 cents for it and it was not cut down and the rarest of the WWII made bayonets. Someone just reached into a pin, stuffed it into a sheath and sent it off. Its worth something like $400+.

 

[Jim in Wisconsin]

My Dad told me when him and his brothers (4) and the other kids used to play cowboys and indians. He said "we didn't have any toy guns - we used real ones". Then he smiled and said "and they were loaded". They would shoot into the dirt or at a tree. This was in the 1920's - life was different then.
They grew up to be the generation that fought in WW2.