inletting my tang with pics(help)

[alaskasmoker]

that vertical black line just behind the fence is where the plug stops. I set the barrel back that far cause I didnt want any of that vent liner in the breech plug. The way it is now, my liner just clears that black line.

Ive read a how to book. the art of the pennsylvania long rifle. But sometimes it doesnt answer all my questions

I only know of one guy that is building. He is the one who gave me the book. But I dont think he really is into teaching.

 

[bioprof]

To me, it seems that ideally you want the vent hole close to the center line, but if it is a little higher, it will still work as long as the vent liner doesn't go up above the top of the side flat. If it ends up being a little low, you could always deepen the pan.

 

[alaskasmoker]

well I dont know what to do now. The liner they sent me is already riding that edge. I dont want to nor do I think that it should be required for me to hog out my pan. So Im wondering if this stock was inletted wrong by the factory to start. One edge of that barrel channel had already broken through completly inside the lock mortise. I didnt mention it before, cause it came like that from the factory and figured if that was a mistake they wouldnt have sent me that stock. Now im wondering if that isnt an indication they went down to far?

 

[alaskasmoker]

here is a pic of the factory breakthrough. Let me know if I need to start a new thread here. I realize this is getting cluttered with the pics!

 

[chuck-ia]

I would not worry about breaking throughinto the barrel channel, I would guess a lot of stocks are like that, allthough the main spring should not be touching the barrel. I have allways tried to get the vent liner centered on the barrel flat, I have seen pictures of the liner way high or low on the flat too. About 5 years ago I had the very same problem as you, birddog suggested cutting 3 thin pieces of wood the length of the barrel and gluing to the bottom 3 flats, kinda putting a small taper on the sides so they would fit together nice, it worked well, you have to look close to see it. Could allso use bedding compound to raise the barrel. Or maybe someone more experianced will tell something. flinch

 

[alaskasmoker]

My barrel is already above the top of the wood in the lock area. see picture. If I raise the barrel up more it will be way past the top of the lock area and look stupid.

 

[bioprof]

Alaskasmoker,

Don't be too discouraged. The breaking through into the barrel channel isn't a big deal. It happens to the best of the builders sometimes. When you run into a problem and get discouraged, set it aside for a day or two and think about it. Get out your references and read them. Usually within a couple of days a solution will come to you. There's always obstacles to be overcome in any gunbuilding project. Part of the satisfaction of doing it yourself is overcoming the hurdles and ending up with something you're proud to own.

I don't think that you any problems that can't be overcome. Wait a while and see what others on this forum have to say and see if they have any solutions.

Heck, the first pistol that I built has the touchole liner above the top of the side flat, and I just filed it off level with the diagonal flat. It shoots just fine. If this would bother you too much, then don't put a touchole liner in it and just drill a touchole and cone it from the inside. It's really not that hard to do with the right knowledge, and you have the knowledge right here on this forum. You might even be able to angle the touchole downward so that it comes out in the middle of the bore. You definitely aren't at the point of no return; there's lots of ways to skin a cat. In the end, no one will know but you.

Heck, the touchole is right in the bottom of the pan in a lot of the originals, and some of them are considered master craftsmen.

 

[Birddog6]

You need to call who you got the stock from & tell them this.
1: the barrel is not all the way down into the stock & the center of the vent liner is already below the flashpan edge. When you take it on down it will be up on the edge of the flat.Tht sucks. No wsy I would accept that stock.

2: The lock inlet was Obviously done wrong or the guys pattern is worn out.One or the other. You should actually have to take wood off the Top of the rifle & bring it down to the barrel.There is no way you are going to get that to look right..... Call them up & tell them it is not cut right & you want it replaced with a properly cut stock.

I have probably built 3 dozen preinlet stocks & I have never yet had one that I couldn't adjust to get the vent liner where it is supposed to go, and on ALL of them I had extra wood on top of the stock to take off.

Call them & send that sucker back..............

 

[alaskasmoker]

Yeah thats what I thought you were gonna say birddog. I emailed them the photos and explained my dilema. So hopefully Ill hear from them on monday.

I did set that barrel back to far though. I was not thinking right about that vent liner. I origanally thought I needed the whole liner ahead of the breech plug, you know thinking that the whole thing is gonna go through the barrel! Doh.

But nevertheless that is not why this thing is sittting high

 

[Zonie]

All of my Flintlock builds have the entire vent liner ahead of the breech plug.
The drill and the tap for the threads in the liner hole never hits the face of the breech plug.

If I'm using a 5/16 inch threaded liner its center is 5/32 + 1/32 or 3/16 (.188) of an inch forward of the face of the breech plug.

If I'm using a 3/8 inch threaded liner its center is 3/16 + 1/32 or 7/32 (.219) ahead of the face of the breech plug.

 

[Vaino]

Because the bbl makers choose to have long threaded plugs and if the edge of the TH liner is forward of the plug face by 1/32", that long "finger" of wood from the breech end to the rear of the fence, is the result? Of course in the above photo this "finger" is exagerated?.....Fred

 

[alaskasmoker]

Thats good to know zonie. Thats what made sense to me in my head. But then flipped to the back of the how to book and noticed his drawing showed that the center of the liner was about right on the face of the breech plug.

 

[Birddog6]

Almost EVERY preinlet stock I have bought (with exception to the ones I get from Jacks Mtn. Stocks) I have to move the barrel back. They know you will have to adjust the barrel to fit the lock inlet to some extent, Within Reason. This is not within reason as you can't get the barrel & lock where they need to go. The lock inlet or the barrel inlet or the entire stock conformation at that area is wrong...... :shake:

You should be able to square the end of the inlet (if it is not already squared) and slip the barrel in with minor work & the lock fit to the Center of the flat for proper vent liner installation. Moving the vent up or down a tad is acceptable, but yours is WAY out of wack, IMHO.

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