Is this a real traditional in line?

[Zonie]

It might be the Babcock listed in "American Gun Makers including Supplement of American gun makers".


BABCOCK, Moses ”” Charlestown, Mass. Listed in Directories from
1838 to 1874. Was assistant to Abijah Monroe, gunsmith, then
owner of a shop on Charlestown Square 1877-81. Died Aug. 27,
1886.

"FLAYDERMAN'S GUIDE TO ANTIQUE AMERICAN FIREARMS and their value", 9th ed shows a .52 caliber underhammer cane gun which looks like a cane.
When it is cocked, the trigger pops out of its normally concealed position for use.

 

[Mickc01]

loads from the muzzle
uses a #11 cap
wood stock
fixed breech
exposed hammer
fixed metallic sights
Brass inlay
brass patchbox
brass buttplate
Kentucky style buttstock.
H&A style mainspring assembly
19th century style metal work.

Interesting set of criteria, so the TC Scout would only fail because the breech plug is designed to be removed for cleaning. hmmm

You might add, designed to shoot only black powder or a substitute for black powder. :wink:

LD

I know he can defend himself but I read this as Dave listing the virtues of this particular rifle. And he's spot-on right. What a wonderful, quirky thing is it......Mick

 

[coloradoclyde]

"FLAYDERMAN'S GUIDE TO ANTIQUE AMERICAN FIREARMS and their value"[/i], 9th ed shows a .52 caliber underhammer cane gun which looks like a cane.
When it is cocked, the trigger pops out of its normally concealed position for use.

 

[m-g willy]

Is the trigger guard also a main spring?

 

[Larry (Omaha)]

M-g,
You see the same as me, a friend gave me the photo, & have not seen the rifle in person. It appears to me that the trigger guard is the main hammer spring.
Flintlocklar :wink:

 

[Loyalist Dave]

GUESS WHAT?
The BABCOCK Action aka the OVER-HAMMER ACTION is NOT A ONE OFF!

This particular version was found on an 8-bore shotgun....

IF you look at the photos in the article, and then at the previous photos in this thread, the gun in the article has no patch box. It's a different gun. At first I thought that the information about the .41 rifle using this action might have been in error, but I looked at the photos and I think this is a second example, and a smoothbore example of the action.

Ambidextrous Smoothbore Action


LD

 

[stewart.leach]

I sort-of recall a gun like that in the museum at Tufts University, in Medford MA.

 

[andy52]

Interesting concept. question does the trigger guard serve as the mainspring?

 

[FishDFly]

And folks call under hammers ugly, nah not at all.

 

[Musketeer]

Interesting concept. question does the trigger guard serve as the mainspring?

Yes.

 

[Critter Getter]

IMG_0145 by Larry(Omaha), on Flickr]Link[/url]
Photo 3 of inline
Man is a previous owner, don't have a clue who.
41 caliber is all the info I have

I would love to own a gun like this as such an interesting piece! Now the question I have is...........what time is it in the picture? His watch says one thing and the wall clock says another. . Greg

 

[Smokey Plainsman]

Read The Muzzle Loading Cap Lock Rifle by Ned Roberts.

Good info on "traditional" inlines.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

The other interesting bit is that the gunmaker, Babcock, also made some under-hammers, and apparently called this an "over hammer". Like the under-hammer, this lock could give the piece ambidextrous application. Something important for my brother, for example, who is left handed and left-eye dominant, but his boys are all right handers.

LD

 

[Pete G]

Is that available as a kit ?