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It's Either a Great Idea or a Stupid Idea.......Undercutting a Traditions Kentuckyish Stock.......Thanks For Looking.

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Consider this thread closed.

I want to again thank Ron-49 for the pictures in post #17.

The angle from the barrel to ramrod is a great shape.

Plenty of strength left too.
You are welcome sir. Been shooting and building rifles for 45 plus years. Not having anyone around here interested in learning how to build I try to pass the info I have accumulated over the years when ever I can. That is providing I can remember it.
 
This is the way John Schippers would show how to shape a fore stock. At the widest point it is only about an 1/8" of wood. Shaping the fore stock is one of the last things I do when making a rifle because this creates a very slender fore stock. Definitely not for someone who takes their barrel out to clean it. Just another option for what you are trying to do.
Question. What is the source for those pages/book/notes? I don't recognize them and they look very interesting. Thanks.
 
Question. What is the source for those pages/book/notes? I don't recognize them and they look very interesting. Thanks.
John Schippers was the director of crafts at the Connor Prairie living History Museum. When you took his classes on gun making you got a copy of the illustrations for a book on gun making he was working on. I took the class twice so have two copies. The old saying a picture is worth a thousand words well that was John, over 100 pages of hand drawn illustrations. There are designs for all kinds of things. multi leaf sights. peep sights, How to make different parts, even some on how to modify different items to set up your workshop. I don't believe he ever got the book finished but he did publish a book on engraving. John was a master at engraving and carving it was amazing to watch him do either.
 
John Schippers was the director of crafts at the Connor Prairie living History Museum. When you took his classes on gun making you got a copy of the illustrations for a book on gun making he was working on. I took the class twice so have two copies. The old saying a picture is worth a thousand words well that was John, over 100 pages of hand drawn illustrations. There are designs for all kinds of things. multi leaf sights. peep sights, How to make different parts, even some on how to modify different items to set up your workshop. I don't believe he ever got the book finished but he did publish a book on engraving. John was a master at engraving and carving it was amazing to watch him do either.
Thank you. Please keep me in mind if you ever sell your extra copy.
 
Undercutting and removing wood from the bottom of the forearm/ramrod channel.

It would certainly thin that sub roll of a stock down considerably.

No risk of breakage in the thin areas cuzz the stock and barrel will be pinned fo ever.

As always, thank you.


PS: Google, in its infinite picture wisdom, turned up nothing. Is that a clue?
If it's not broke why fix it? But if you do, sure would love to see it.
 
John Schippers was the director of crafts at the Connor Prairie living History Museum. When you took his classes on gun making you got a copy of the illustrations for a book on gun making he was working on. I took the class twice so have two copies. The old saying a picture is worth a thousand words well that was John, over 100 pages of hand drawn illustrations. There are designs for all kinds of things. multi leaf sights. peep sights, How to make different parts, even some on how to modify different items to set up your workshop. I don't believe he ever got the book finished but he did publish a book on engraving. John was a master at engraving and carving it was amazing to watch him do either.

Thank you. Please keep me in mind if you ever sell your extra copy.
never thought about that. wouldn't have any idea what it would be worth. I use the heck out of it but then I also have notes from the classes that help explain some of what is in the book and things that you can't draw a picture of.
 
That is being figured into the equation too.

I've seen several wooden under ribs on this site.

But that's venturing into something I've never attempted.
Leaving a wooden under rib would be a lot more traditional and look a lot better than what you are preposing .
There is a reason cutting away sections above the ramrod pipes hasn't been done in the past it is weaker , can catch on things, and simply looks terrible in my opinion.
 

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