Japanese Ultra High Muzzleloader

[bads1buell]

I found a 1970's Kentucky 45 cal. ultra high (Japanese made) kit new in the box today at a local shop. This rifle had never been put together however, the barrel is a bit rusty on the outside. The inside looks nice and clean. It still had the price tag on it $59.88 and in the original packaging. The store owner wanted $100.00 for it and I ended up getting it for $60.00 out the door. I dropped it off at my local smith to have him get all the rust off the barrel. It appears to have a maple stock and the only thing that was missing is the front blade sight. Does anyone know what the twist might be on this rifle and are these things safe to shoot? If not safe to shoot I will finish it and make a wall hanger out of her.

 

[Bubba45]

Had one years ago,IIRC it had 4 groove rifling that was a bit rough.After steel wooling the bore a bit it shot pretty good.Looks like a CVA Kentucky with brass trigger plate.

 

[bpbrs]

I found a 1970's Kentucky 45 cal. ultra high (Japanese made) kit new in the box

"NEW IN BOX" no paper work with it?

FYI their is one in the traders section also.

 

[MikeChapin]

As I remember those were closer to a .44 than they were to a .45. You may want to have your gunsmith mic the bore while he is at it.

 

[omgb]

I actually have their catalog and ML book from 1977. I would say the price you paid is OK. I wouldn't pay much more that $100 or so for one of them though. They are safe IMHO, but they aren't fancy nor are they historically accurate unless one is collecting 1970s knock-offs. :wink: They, Unltra High, were one of the companies that jumped in at the start of the Mountain Man craze right when Jeremiah Johnson and other such movies were released. Back then, backpacking, getting back to nature, John Denver and Rocky Mountain High and good 'ol Mother Earth News were all the rage. Lots of guys wanted to get a taste of the old ways and get closer to nature. ML shooting and Buckskinning seemed just the ticket. If you hand some money, you bought a Browning or had a custom Hawkin or Mountain rifle made for you. Val Forget at Navy Arms had some beautiful guns, as did Dixie. If you were a little less well-heeled you went for something like the Ultra High. Shoot, you could buy them in your local Buttry's or IGA super market in the hardware section up in Bozeman or Great Falls. Anyway, they are a good serviceable gun. Nothing artsy or fancy about them and in some ways they are pretty rough, but they shoot and they were a great value for the money. Lots of guys, moi included, used them as a stepping stone. :thumbsup:

 

[WV MZL HUNTER]

A friend just gave me a Ultra High and it is a 69 cal. smooth bore. It also is a little rusty.
I had a post on the form in the flintlock rifle section just a little while back. I was also concerned about shooting it. I had Mountain State Muzzleloading supply check it out, in WV. Need to know what size wads to buy for it to shoot shot.
Let us know how your gun works out. :yakyak:

 

[lockjaw]

..i have one (beat to manure), but a tack-driver...been told they are 1/56 twist

 

[bads1buell]

Yes it is new in the box and I have the original paperwork.

 

[arcticap]

There was another thread about the Ultra Hi/Miroku guns:
[url] http://www.muzzleloadingforum...st/390597/hl/Miroku/fromsearch/1/#390597[/url]