Jukar .45 caplock

[Confused.45]

Greetings ladies and gents,
I am new to your forum and hope I don't over welcome my stay. I have an old muzzleloader that I woul like to start shootig. I just retired am looking for info to start doing it right. I have no loading info ball,patch,type of powder and how much. In looking through your forum, I feel that 3fg powder is the powder .

 

[ppg1949]

Confused.45, welcome to the forum from Indiana.
I have a CVA Jukar Spain Kentucky .45 caliber rifle. I use 3f powder in mine but you can also use 2f, Pyrodex RS, and 777 powders. If you can find 3f black powder, I would stick with it. A basic starting load would be 40-45 grains. Mine shoots best with 50 grains and a .440 patched round ball. Go up and down 5 grains at a time untill you find a load your rifle likes. But you will need to do some range time to find out for sure. I also like to shoot the Lee REAL bullets. Be sure you give it a thorough cleaning and oiling when done. Have fun.

 

[Zonie]

Welcome to the forum.
Remember, the fouling left from shooting black powder or one of the synthetic black powders must be cleaned out as soon as possible when your done shooting.
If you don't, rust will quickly happen.

You will need a cleaning rod, a .45 caliber cleaning jag and some cotton material to remove the fouling. Use plain water with a bit of dish washing detergent added to it to do the cleaning.
Also get a good gun oil or anti-rust oil to protect the steel parts after it is clean. I like Birchwood Casey Barricade.

If you don't have a powder measure but you do have some old spent cartridges, they can often be used instead.
Here's a link to some of them and how much powder they will measure

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/black-powder-measures-from-cartridges.58311/

 

[Confused.45]

Thank you all very much for all the good information. Time to start collecting all the good stuff. Will let you know how it all works out.

 

[deermanok]

.440 round ball. For patch material, 100 % cotton fabric.
My 45 caliber rifle seems to like a .010 thickness patch. You can try some .015 patches as well.
For powder, I use 60 grains of 3f Old Ensyford. This seems to be my most accurate load.

 

[GO OutDoors]

I also have a Jukar Caplock and a Rocklock that I just got and haven't had the chance to work up the load for it. But the caplock like's 60gr Triple 7 440 ball .012 ticking at 50 yards I get a 3 inch group.
Start working the powder charge at 50 and shoot 3 to 5 shots swabbing the barrel between shot's go up 5gr and repeat till you get the tightest group. Don't go over 80gr these guns are 80gr max.
After shooting take a piece of leather and put it between the hammer and the nipple. Warm water down the barrel and let sit for a few minets. Run a patch down and scrub it . Do this 2 to 3 times. Drain the water and take the leather out and and run dry patches. Run oiled patch to prevent rust in the barrel and clean the rest of the gun and you good till the next time you go burn some powder!!

 

[Eutycus]

I hope you get a boatload of information, one of my guns is like the one you describe, a Jukar/CVA .45. Oh, by the way Howdy and Welcome to the forum from Texas. What ppg1949 told about the 45-50 grains is a good rule of thumb. Start about your caliber (45) and experiment and work your way up from there.

 

[dragnetbill]

Greetings ladies and gents,
I am new to your forum and hope I don't over welcome my stay. I have an old muzzleloader that I woul like to start shootig. I just retired am looking for info to start doing it right. I have no loading info ball,patch,type of powder and how much. In looking through your forum, I feel that 3fg powder is the powder .

The one thing I would add to the above advise is that you would be well served to invest in range rod for loading and cleaning at the range. The rifle that you have is not known for having the best of ram rods. I started decades ago with a Jukar Kentucky rifle and my first range session was cut short by a broken ram rod and no back up at hand.

 

[Confused.45]

Is my jukar Spain stock parts related to the cva kentucky parts? Whoever put mine together was probably blind in one and couldn't out the other. Brass and wood fittings are terribly not even close to being flush anywhere. Thinking of getting new hardware. Any suggestions.

 

[rusty]

Welcome to the forum

 

[Confused.45]

Thank you very much

 

[ppg1949]

It is my understanding that CVA is the lastest incarnation of the Jukar Spain relics. If you need parts, try Deer Creek Products first. They have most of the CVA parts and should interchange with your rifle.

 

[B P Maniac Shooter]

Greetings ladies and gents,
I am new to your forum and hope I don't over welcome my stay. I have an old muzzleloader that I woul like to start shootig. I just retired am looking for info to start doing it right. I have no loading info ball,patch,type of powder and how much. In looking through your forum, I feel that 3fg powder is the powder .

Here's one like yours in action:

 

[nightwolf1974]

Welcome to the Forum. I've always had soft spot for the Jukar MLs! Nice basic pieces!

 

[russellshaffer]

Instead of buying new hardware you might think about filing down the stuff you have. I have a Jukar kit rifle that was also assembled by a person with poor vision. I filed down the brass parts that were too big for the stock and used wood putty and stain on the rest of the gaps. It looks much better now and didn't cost anything. Have fun with your new old gun.

 

[toot]

Welcome.