Just a couple snaphaunces used for over 150 years

[Flintlock1640]

I really focus on flintlocks but I do occasionally get other interesting pieces, usually with other items I am more interested in. The bottom is a continental (Italian?) snaphaunce, ca 1700. The middle seems to me earlier. With that style engraving, I would date it to mid-1600s. I hope you don't mind, but I take the liberty to add a flintlock lock which I have not found a similar example to date it. It has a lot of the snaphaunce influence so I believe it to be second or third quarter 17th century. I found the original cock on eBay France (dug up on a Napoleonic Wars site, obviously not related) which I believe to be stylistically similar to the lock and ca 1660s or 70s. I think it is interesting how one percussion conversion retains the horizontal sear while the other has been updated. I should have double-checked but I do not recall if Alessandro Ghini is in Der Neue Stockel or not.

 

[Flintlock1640]

I looked up Alessandro Ghini in Der Neue Stockel. They have him in Loiano in 1632. Only mention. The lock could be older or the records are not complete.

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

Interesting how on the perc conversion the tumber is on a stud that then has a nut holding it on, or is a bolt through the hammer thru the tumbler.

 

[Flintlock1640]

The latter is correct the nut holds the screw from the other side of the cock. It's just one long piece with the tumbler not threaded at all. Odd setup but it works.

 

[rickystl]

Hi Flintlock.

I also like collecting locks. Those are three very interesting locks. And they all three do indeed look as though they started life pre-1700. Those lock plate styles suggest that. The converted locks do show that during the period nothing was discarded that could be made to work. I especially find the flintlock interesting. Due to the lock plate and hammer style, my guess would be the third quarter of the 17th Century. It's interesting to note the lock variety during the first half of the 17th Century. Many of the locks have that "experimental" look.
Anyway, nice additions to your collection.

Rick

 

[Cesare]

Really interesting lock! Unfortunately modified in the 19° century. I live near Loiano where it was made. I think it belong to the beginning of 1700. There are two Alessandro Ghini. The first, the clan-father, born in 1626 and died around 1690, the second was his grandson. Born in 1694 and died in 1738. It is in the style of the grandson. Somewhere I have a picture of a lock attributed to the younger Alessandro. If you sell it and the price is not too high make me know. It would be pretty make it return to where it was born.
Sorry for my english

 

[Rudyard]

All good what might be called 'Eye candy ' very nice to see .
Thank you Rudyard

 

[Cesare]

i've found a picture. The lock should be like the one in the attached file before the adaption

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

Can you say 'ornate'? Look at the head of the screw holding on the frizzen - WOW!

 

[OldSmoky1967]

I looked up Alessandro Ghini in Der Neue Stockel. They have him in Loiano in 1632. Only mention. The lock could be older or the records are not complete.

Do you have a copy of Der Neue Stockel? I am interested in finding out all I can about Johannes Mond, Augsberg, Germany: Mid 19th Century. Hard to find a copy of this book!

 

[Flintlock1640]

Do you have a copy of Der Neue Stockel? I am interested in finding out all I can about Johannes Mond, Augsberg, Germany: Mid 19th Century. Hard to find a copy of this book!

I only have the first volume. Found it on AbeBooks years ago for $60. They are hard to find and hard to stomach paying $300+ for three books. I believe the one I have stops with H but if yours is in it I will let you know.

 

[OldSmoky1967]

I only have the first volume. Found it on AbeBooks years ago for $60. They are hard to find and hard to stomach paying $300+ for three books. I believe the one I have stops with H but if yours is in it I will let you know.

That would be awesome. I think it is in Volume 2, though. TY!

 

[Flintlock1640]

That would be awesome. I think it is in Volume 2, though. TY!

No luck, it ends with L, sorry

 

[OldSmoky1967]

No luck, it ends with L, sorry

Thanks for looking for me!

 

[Rudyard]

George Shumway once offerered Stokel long shot but perhaps they have some I think they still publish .
Rudyard