Just a gripe but when did all of the muzzleloading stuff get so expensive??

[ohio ramrod]

Prices go up as supply goes down, Inflation and regulations and fees add to it. I remember two dollars a lb for FFg, 29 dollars for a shotgun. Plus you could buy sperm whale oil for patch lube for $6.00 a bottle. Yea I am that OLD.

 

[vintovka]

After today all bets are off.

 

[rich pierce]

My salary was $8700 in 1975. So.........is anyone surprised prices have risen with salaries?

 

[vintovka]

Many make far, far more in retirement than when they worked. They irony is it comes when they already have everything. Real estate is forecasted to increase 10-12%!!! Watch everything follow suit including everything we need in our hobby.

 

[vintovka]

I am concerned that black powder (real and substitute) may be negatively affected by new laws fearing its misuse as an explosive. I refer to recent ATF publications on this which i don't really understand.

 

[11th corps]

My salary was $8700 in 1975. So.........is anyone surprised prices have risen with salaries?

You must have worked at the same place I did. lol.

 

[JHB]

My salary was $8700 in 1975. So.........is anyone surprised prices have risen with salaries?

Most people don't understand that the company they work for has to increase what they charge for goods and services in order to remain profitable when they give the employees a salary increase. I find it amazing how few people understand basic economics.
All that free stuff the government gives away has to be paid for by some one and that some one is the people working for a living and the consumer.

 

[rickystl]

I remember my first brass framed C&B revolver I bought in the late 1960's for $35.00, which was full retail.

Glad I made some gun purchases 10-15 years ago. Pricing is considerably higher today. I purchased new a custom Virginia style rifle using first grade parts and a top builder in 2010 for $2,500.00. I could probably sell it today, used for the same price. Sure it would cost me about 4 grand to duplicate today.

If you want to really see something shocking: Arguably, the most popular new vehicle sold today is the Ford F150 Pickup Truck. Ford, like other manufactures, offers a "Base" model to start. Check out the cost of the Base model in 2000 and the same Base model in 2021.

Rick

 

[rickystl]

My salary was $8700 in 1975. So.........is anyone surprised prices have risen with salaries?

Rich: Think I beat you by $300.00 that year. LOL

Rick

 

[Blitz]

Things seem more expensive because your dollar is worth less. It won't be long until you see 2020 as the good old days.

I beg to differ ! I have been around a long time , since Franklin Roosevelt was president and if anybody ever thinks 2020 was the good old days , I dont want to be around for what is coming.
Sorry didn`t notice :eek.
Buzz

 

[vintovka]

Most people don't understand that the company they work for has to increase what they charge for goods and services in order to remain profitable when they give the employees a salary increase. I find it amazing how few people understand basic economics.
All that free stuff the government gives away has to be paid for by some one and that some one is the people working for a living and the consumer.

I beg to differ ! I have been around a long time , since Franklin Roosevelt was president and if anybody ever thinks 2020 was the good old days , I dont want to be around for what is coming.
Sorry didn`t notice :eek.
Buzz

I hear ya. Inflation and politics are really messing up my retirement. Mood here is not good and getting worse. Glad i got my CCW last year, they say its not possible right now.

 

[griffiga]

Yep. We’re about 2 or 3 ‘stimulus checks’ away from solving the toilet paper crisis. You can just use your worthless money.

"He who hath not a gun, taketh thy $600 stimulus and buyeth one. If he receiveth $1200, taketh thy abundance and buyeth powder and shot.
- Preparations 20:12

 

[Eutycus]

All politics aside, I would imagine those factory workers who are producing these guns are making a few more Lira than they were 20-30 years ago. And who can blame them? It isn't just the "rich Americans" who got a familys to feed.

 

[vintovka]

All politics aside, I would imagine those factory workers who are producing these guns are making a few more Lira than they were 20-30 years ago. And who can blame them? It isn't just the "rich Americans" who got a familys to feed.

I have met several of the Piettas, Beretta's and Umberti clan at every shot show and we communicate via email every so often. I have an open invitation to visit the Beretta Castle (see link below if you want). The fear is If the Italian govt falls soon could be worse for them and us. Some European manufacturers may not be around next year which would kinda kill new guns and replacement parts for quite a while.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbes...-lodges-and-an-italian-villa/?sh=39adbf3b3014

 

[Eterry]

I always say this about gun prices...
In the 1870's a Colt Peacemaker cost around $30. A cowhand made about $30 a month.
Today a clean used Colt Peacemaker goes for around 4 to 5 Thousand bucks. And the average monthly monthly salary is about the same...
So not much has changed.

In 1981 I was making $3.35 an hour as a kid in school, a lb of fffg cost $10. Took me 3 hours work to buy a lb.
Now it doesn't take that long,,,so some things have gotten better.

Remember that great Humanitarian Tony Soprano said "Remember When' is the lowest form of conversation"

 

[B P Arn]

I beg to differ ! I have been around a long time , since Franklin Roosevelt was president and if anybody ever thinks 2020 was the good old days , I dont want to be around for what is coming.
Sorry didn`t notice :eek.
Buzz

I believe that in a very short period of time that you will change your mind.

 

[Col. Batguano]

Emphasis within manufacturing companies is to decrease their internal cost of production. They try to keep their prices low so as to have a leg up on the competition. As technology advances and more and more of the process can be automated, the less the cost of production. That is nowhere more apparent than in the prices of commodities, where prices tend to come down over time. Corn prices in 1920 were about $1.50 bu. Today it's around $5.00. A 3.3x increase. That same 1920 dollar is worth $13.00 today. So in real terms, corn is only about 1/4 the cost it was then.

Obviously commodities like that are highly volatile in their pricing, and you can find anomalies to make a different point (remember oil in March when it was `$38 per barrel for a day?) but the overall point is made.

 

[Blitz]

I always say this about gun prices...
In the 1870's a Colt Peacemaker cost around $30. A cowhand made about $30 a month.
Today a clean used Colt Peacemaker goes for around 4 to 5 Thousand bucks. And the average monthly monthly salary is about the same...
So not much has changed.

In 1981 I was making $3.35 an hour as a kid in school, a lb of fffg cost $10. Took me 3 hours work to buy a lb.
Now it doesn't take that long,,,so some things have gotten better.

Remember that great Humanitarian Tony Soprano said "Remember When' is the lowest form of conversation"

At $5K per month I do believe we would have a tremendous interest in becoming a "cow hand".
Buzz

 

[Eterry]

At $5K per month I do believe we would have a tremendous interest in becoming a "cow hand".
Buzz

Sorry...I meant average salary in general... not of the cowpoke

 

[firestick]

I mean I know there is inflation and all but in the late 90's and early 2000's prices were way cheaper. I wonder if Italy joining the EU and the currency exchange rate is the largest contributor?? You guys thoughts??? I remember I used to buy Uberti revolvers from DIxie for less than 300 and you could get Piettas on sale for around 200...man. Accessories don't seem to have changed that much and powder has gone up mostly because of shipping costs I guess.

Everything is expensive now. Some because of price but some of it is because money doesn't go as far because we have many more things every day that are must haves. i.e. computers. Didn't need them or the gadgets associated with them but we do now to function in 90% of our lives. It's not right but the way it is. Have no idea the answer except start over and THAT isn't even a halfwit feasible option.