Kibler Hawken?

[Spikebuck]

If I had to guess, since Jim uses the same barrel, just bored to different calibers, it will be a .50, .54, .58 selection. If he has a tapered barrel, and personally that would be make or break for me to buy, I would think that squeezing in a .62 would be tough...maybe not since the pressure is so much less 'out there' at the end. After all, on a 20 GA fowling piece the metal isn't too thick at the muzzle. A .50 would be heavy as I suspect a tapered barrel will be 1 1/8" at the breech.

I'm watching this one with great anticipation!

 

[longcruise]

@Spikebuck good point on his use of single profile barrel stock. I doubt he would add a profile in order to offer a 62. I think the vast majority of his customers will opt for a 54.

 

[Spikebuck]

Another interesting feature will be the barrel rifling. Instead of deep round bottom grooves, as in his current offerings, I assume it might be square grooves perhaps .008 deep? Also...if historically accurate...a 1-48 twist?

 

[longcruise]

Another interesting feature will be the barrel rifling. Instead of deep round bottom grooves, as in his current offerings, I assume it might be square grooves perhaps .008 deep? Also...if historically accurate...a 1-48 twist?

Going to be very interesting to see how that all plays out.

 

[Indy Durtdigger]

Another interesting feature will be the barrel rifling. Instead of deep round bottom grooves, as in his current offerings, I assume it might be square grooves perhaps .008 deep? Also...if historically accurate...a 1-48 twist?

Doesn't rifling vary in his rifles depending on caliber as they aren't, or at least haven't all been supplied by the same maker? It doesn't do it anymore, but the website used to say who a barrel was sourced from when a caliber was selected.

I'll be darned. When did they drop .32 as an offering from the SMR???

 

[Polecat_Tom]

I'll be darned. When did they drop .32 as an offering from the SMR???

You are right, .32 is no longer listed. I am happy that I bought mine when I did. I love that gun.

 

[Gum Slough Muzzleloader]

I'll be darned. When did they drop .32 as an offering from the SMR???

I noticed that too.
Did they drop them or did he sell out of them and hasn't re upped yet?

 

[TDM]

Agree with @Spikebuck that the caliber selection will most likely be .50, .54, & .58.

 

[brazosland]

With the 200th anniversary of the first rondevoux it would make sense that he would introduce a Hawken style rifle.

I have two .62’s, a full stock and a half. Both tapered barrels. Both handle great and hit hard.

 

[yellowhammer]

... lighter weight would be a big factor...

Same here; it will be deciding factor for me.

 

[BigAl52]

Id still like to see a percussion lock offered for a Woodsrunner. May not be period correct but sure would be a nice caplock to shoot for fun.

 

[brazosland]

Same here; it will be deciding factor for me.

I want a Hawken!

I want a Hawken too!!

Me too!!!

But…not if it weighs as much as a real Hawken!!

I will never understand this mentality.

 

[Gum Slough Muzzleloader]

I want a Hawken!

I want a Hawken too!!

Me too!!!

But…not if it weighs as much as a real Hawken!!

I will never understand this mentality.

I want one too.
I don't care what it ways
I want one!
I will buy one maybe two.

 

[yellowhammer]

...not if it weighs as much as a real Hawken!!

I will never understand this mentality.

You would if you saw my skinny old man boney arms.

 

[longcruise]

Id still like to see a percussion lock offered for a Woodsrunner. May not be period correct but sure would be a nice caplock to shoot for fun.

How dare you fly in the face of flintlock dogma!!!

 

[Gum Slough Muzzleloader]

You would if you saw my skinny old man boney arms.

Hammer where ya been?
Are going to buy a Kibler Hawken?

 

[BigAl52]

I own a couple Hawkens can ya tell

 

[Antelope Pete]

This is bound to make some here unhappy, but here goes. On page 95 of the book "THE ENCYCLOPEDIA OF TRADE GOODS 2 GUN ACCESSORIES & HAND WEAPONS of the FUR TRADE" by James A. Hanson of the Museum of the Fur Trade he quotes Charles Hanson in his book "The Hawken Rifle: It's Place in History".
"In fact it is worth noting that not a single example of a J & S Hawken flintlock is known".

 

[Rock Home Isle]

This is bound to make some here unhappy, but here goes. On page 95 of the book "GUN ACCESSORIES & HAND WEAPONS of the FUR TRADE" by James A. Hanson of the Museum of the Fur Trade he quotes Charles Hanson in his book "The Hawken Rifle: It's Place in History".
"In fact it is worth noting that not a single example of a J & S Hawken flintlock is known".

And yet Hawken rifles were being made in the 1820’s

 

[brazosland]

This is bound to make some here unhappy, but here goes. On page 95 of the book "THE ENCYCLOPEDIA OF TRADE GOODS 2 GUN ACCESSORIES & HAND WEAPONS of the FUR TRADE" by James A. Hanson of the Museum of the Fur Trade he quotes Charles Hanson in his book "The Hawken Rifle: It's Place in History".
"In fact it is worth noting that not a single example of a J & S Hawken flintlock is known".

So what? “Known” means “still exists.”

Those guns were used hard. Some were converted to percussion and used hard some more.

They built guns in the 20’s…long before caps were commonly available. I guess those were match locks?