Do any of you cast and shoot the Lee REAL bullets?
Do you lube the grooves?
How do they shoot for accuracy?
Thanks
Do you lube the grooves?
How do they shoot for accuracy?
Thanks
Lee REAL bullets
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64Springer
75 Cal.
Depends on the twist rate of your barrel.
If you have a 1:66 twist, you're better off putting the REAL bullet in your pocket and throwing your rifle at the target.
That way you'll actually hit something.
I tumble coat mine with 45-45-10 lube.
If you have a 1:66 twist, you're better off putting the REAL bullet in your pocket and throwing your rifle at the target.
That way you'll actually hit something.
I tumble coat mine with 45-45-10 lube.
64Springer
75 Cal.
You'll be fine with that twist.
I've pan lubed mine thinking the grooves need filled; how does tumble lubing preform ?
I use the the Lee REAL bullet in several of my .54's. Two have 1 in 66" twist (Pedersoli RMH and Frontier) the other has 1 in 48" (Investarms Hawken). In my guns, the REAL bullets shoot very well, indistinguishable performance between those and roundballs, including group size and POI. I use the shorter and lighter of the two .54 bullet options available, and I pan lube with some beeswax concoction that I made a bunch of several years ago. I shoot relatively light powder charges, 60 grains 3f or sub equivalent, and the bullets work very well on deer and a couple of bears over the years.
64Springer
75 Cal.
45-45-10 is the greatest lube invention ever.
All of cast Unmen bullets get tumbled in it.
A little goes a long way.
Dries fast and not sticky.
No lead smear either.
Johnson paste wax is now so ridiculously expensive though. Can you suggest an alternate?
REAL bullets of each caliber i have, .45/.50/.54 all shoot accurately with lower loads. Once i get to 75 gr in my .45 it's group is opening more than i want on target. Same happens with the .50/.54 but its up at 85 gr. Plenty of slobber knocking power out to a 100 yds. Thats my max shooting range with my eye sight.
longcruise
70 Cal.
I tried them in 50 and 54 a long while back. I was thrilled with the beautiful cloverl6 
groups at 50 yards but those turned into 18 inch 100 yard groups.
groups at 50 yards but those turned into 18 inch 100 yard groups.Yup the higher my loads go the bigger the groups get. Hanging around 45-75 gr they will keep in the lungs. I don't shoot too far usually 75 yds n under.I tried them in 50 and 54 a long while back. I was thrilled with the beautiful cloverl6
Have shot them in a .54 Renegade and .50 Hawken with good results. I shot tumble-lubed in Lee Alox, bare over a home-made lubed (50/50 bees wax/Crisco) Durafelt wad, and tumble lubed over wad. All shot great, easily meeting hunting bullet requirements for me.
I found the rough Renegade in my closet after long since forgetting about it or where I got it. Somebody had D&T it for a scope and it was none to pretty otherwise. I figured it was a perfect candidate for a beater hunting rifle, or maybe a loaner if it shot well. I was pleased with the result of the REALs over Pyrodex RS.
I picked up the Hawken, a rough “kit” gun, inexpensively at a gun show last year mostly just for the parts. After my positive results with the .54 Renegade and REALs I tried similar loads in the .50 Hawken with similar positive results. I am a fan of them REALs and my home made wads and the tumble-lubing certainly did not hurt anything and is easy enough to do.
I found the rough Renegade in my closet after long since forgetting about it or where I got it. Somebody had D&T it for a scope and it was none to pretty otherwise. I figured it was a perfect candidate for a beater hunting rifle, or maybe a loaner if it shot well. I was pleased with the result of the REALs over Pyrodex RS.
I picked up the Hawken, a rough “kit” gun, inexpensively at a gun show last year mostly just for the parts. After my positive results with the .54 Renegade and REALs I tried similar loads in the .50 Hawken with similar positive results. I am a fan of them REALs and my home made wads and the tumble-lubing certainly did not hurt anything and is easy enough to do.
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I cast .54 R.E.A.L. heavy bullets. If I am shooting at the range, I bring some wax paper, bore butter, and roll the bullets in the bore butter on wax paper before setting them in the barrel. If not shooting at the range (hunting), I just squeeze out some BB and shove it down. The only gun I use them in is a fast twist Pedersoli Jager. I found the accuracy was not the greatest if I used them in my other long twist barrel guns.
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64Springer, would you mind giving the ingredients of your 45-45-10 lube?
Thanks.
64Springer
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There are several online.
But it boils down to 45% Lee Liquid ALOX, 45% Johnson's Paste Wax and 10% Odorless Mineral Spirits.
Some folks say it won't settle out. But mine does. I just give it a shake every now and then.
It's kept in an old DAWN bottle and I dunk it hot water when I need to.
A LITTLE BIT goes a long way. A 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon is enough to tumble 300 .45 Colt bullets. You don't want the bullets drenched. Just a light sheen. Dries in hour or two. The best part is that it's not sticky.
Good luck.
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Thank you very much!
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