the laws in pa are if you have any anlmal in your yard ( bear - dog - or what ever ) and it's attacking you or your livestock we have the right to put it down....once had a neigbors "pitbull" chewing on one of my dogs that were tied to a run well guess what happened next....................bob
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I'll bet you practiced your fastest reloading techniques! ::
Amen! I'm having a flintlock built and it will be .62.
Kinda laugh every time someone straps on a pistol for "bear protection." Not many folks can hit well enough to be sure of connecting with the brain or spine, and anything wide of that will leave him on his feet and coming for you. For frame of reference, consider a brain no bigger than a grapefruit coming at you knee-high as fast as a horse. Hit that! [/quote]
Yea, but sometimes one gets lucky as in this story, www.adn.com/alaska_ap/story/5591674p-5523478c.html
Yea, but sometimes one gets lucky as in this story, www.adn.com/alaska_ap/story/5591674p-5523478c.html
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Helo to the forum. I live in montana going to hunt with flintlock this year we have a lot of grizz in this state i thougt about carrying my 454 casull but decided to carry BIG CAN OF BEAR SPRAY. Been to attacks this mouth ,a grizz can run 100yds in little over 5 seconds most of the game people carry big shot guns
In an often quoted and probably fabricated story, a man asks his Alaskan Guide if a .357 Mag is good enough in case of a bear attack. The guide says: "Yep. You can shoot yourself in the head so you don't have to suffer being mauled to death."
So, if this bear is coming at me as fast as a horse, am I better off laying down and playing dead, or at least trying to knock the stuffing out of the "grapefruit" with whatever firearm I can bring to bear (so to speak). I'd rather dump six .44 Mag rounds in his direction than wait and see how a squirt of pepper-spray does at three feet, or try flogging him away with my fly-rod.
I'd be in reall trouble, because my .44 Mag pistol is a single shot!
So, if this bear is coming at me as fast as a horse, am I better off laying down and playing dead, or at least trying to knock the stuffing out of the "grapefruit" with whatever firearm I can bring to bear (so to speak). I'd rather dump six .44 Mag rounds in his direction than wait and see how a squirt of pepper-spray does at three feet, or try flogging him away with my fly-rod.
I'd be in reall trouble, because my .44 Mag pistol is a single shot!
Remember, you don't have to outrun the bear, you just have to be able to outrun your patner. :winking:
Laying down and imitating a steak is better than spray or a pointed stick? The gravy on my shirt, from that morning, might act as A1. (This is baiting, isn't it?) Personally the picture of that "charging grapefruit " makes me rethink my desire to go bear hunting. If I didn't think I could hit the fruit maybe try to take out a shoulder before he gets too close and run like heck! Bet one could really load fast if this happened!
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Some of my friends used to hunt those mean tusky hogs! They said in a gun mag that a good way to practice was to have a friend roll old tires at you and your shot had to hit center! Humbug, I say! I don't have any friends, that friendly, as to stand uphill as I shot in their direction. Surely they meant a long oblique path so's you don't lose a friend?
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Some of my friends used to hunt those mean tusky hogs! They said in a gun mag that a good way to practice was to have a friend roll old tires at you and your shot had to hit center! Humbug, I say! I don't have any friends, that friendly, as to stand uphill as I shot in their direction. Surely they meant a long oblique path so's you don't lose a friend?
I've read some about this sort of thing. In fact I have a book on my shelf titled "Alaska Bear Tales." From what everything I have gatehred, remember I live in NY so I have no practical experience with grizzlies and darn little with black bears, a shotgun with slugs or a big rifle is the best bet. Long guns aren't very convenient. My experience with paper spray and people does not make enthusiastic about it for bears. (I suspect a bear might even develop a taste for it if exposed to more than once). Handguns are an okay compromise if klike the guy in the article you are 1) very good or; 2) very lucky. :imo: Yak yak yak. :yakyak:
You need you a ferocious doggy to cover your calves. (That's a 40 lb. Kerry Blue Terrier wading through a pod of Russian hogs!)
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If I Knew there was bears in my backyard Id get a 300 win mag like you did but for muzzleloaders I would use at least a .54 cal and still be a little nervous. :shocking: :shocking: :shocking:
Them's the ones!!! Said they would "knock you down" and try to eat you?? They turned loose some of those "Russian" boars here decades ago! They didn't last long amongst us hillbillies with 22's!! The hams tasted "porky" though and were tough! But those charging grapefruits probably have bigger teeth!
I inherited a decade ago all of a deceased friends gun books. Among them was a book on bear hunting by a REAL bear hunter. Somewhere in Wash-Oregon? I remember now "Education of a Bear Hunter".
These old pro's used 30-06 or less, usually, some even guns that I wouldn't dream of shooting a big bear with. But these boys grew up hunting them and I guess killed lots with 22's!! Most beasts can be killed very easily by these kinds of hunters, not me! They know where to shoot it and more importantly where to be when they do so. I'd want a 72 double barrel. And that BMG50 we have been chewing on in another place in this forum!
Sometimes I wonder about risking my life hunting bear w a ML. It only takes ONE flash in the pan to call attn to this walking "pic-a-nic basket"! looks like they'd let one carry a BIG repeating ctg gun "back-up" in hopes of keeping a hunter alive? No, they'd cheat or be accused of it?
I inherited a decade ago all of a deceased friends gun books. Among them was a book on bear hunting by a REAL bear hunter. Somewhere in Wash-Oregon? I remember now "Education of a Bear Hunter".
These old pro's used 30-06 or less, usually, some even guns that I wouldn't dream of shooting a big bear with. But these boys grew up hunting them and I guess killed lots with 22's!! Most beasts can be killed very easily by these kinds of hunters, not me! They know where to shoot it and more importantly where to be when they do so. I'd want a 72 double barrel. And that BMG50 we have been chewing on in another place in this forum!
Sometimes I wonder about risking my life hunting bear w a ML. It only takes ONE flash in the pan to call attn to this walking "pic-a-nic basket"! looks like they'd let one carry a BIG repeating ctg gun "back-up" in hopes of keeping a hunter alive? No, they'd cheat or be accused of it?
A friend of mine, my bowhunting mentor, told of an annual event in PA where bowhunters shot a few field targets and killed many, many kegs. At the end of festivities a pig would be released in a woodlot and the killing arrow took it. The last year they attempted it (and this was in the 60's I believe) someone found a Russian boar. I guess he did his kind proud before they finally managed to gather the wounded and set up a defensive position. The boar was never found, but 100 or so guys claimed to have hit it. Course it's hard to shoot and climb a tree at the same time so the actual hit count might have been lower. There was much blood, but possibly none of it was the piggie's. :crackup:
There's a sizeable ranch (for NY, not TX) not too far from here that sells "canned" feral hog hunts for muzzleloaders. I've never paid to play, but I'm considering.
There's a sizeable ranch (for NY, not TX) not too far from here that sells "canned" feral hog hunts for muzzleloaders. I've never paid to play, but I'm considering.
