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Cotton52

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I have an opportunity to pick up a very nice looking English Double which has corrosion inside the breech area. I am not interested in it for a wall hanger but was wondering what the approximate cost of having the barrels lined would be and if that would even be recommended.
Cotton
 
Depends how deep the pits are at the breech Cotton.
Many have been used just as they are with no problems.
Don't try to debreech it if unfamiliar with how to do it, as you can wreck the ribs and make a mess very easily on a double.
Lined to a smaller calibre is always a bad idea, as it destroys the handling.

Best,
Rich.
 
Most of those rusty old guns should be hung on the wall and never fired again. They are potential IED/pipe bombs. Also, having any sort of work done on them can end up costing more than the gun is worth. I have said before and I stand by it; most Damascus guns should no longer be in use. No gunsmiths I've ever met will certify them as safe any longer.

As Rich said above, relining to a smaller bore size will make the barrel heavier and thus the gun will not handle as well as it once did. Then again, I've hunted with several inexpensive shotguns that handled like a bar of lead. The things I killed with it didn't seem to notice the difference between my clunky old Savage 311 and a Purdy costing thousands of dollars. If the choice is between never firing it and getting it lined so you can fire it, albeit with less ease, maybe a clunkier barrel is a viable option.

That said, take it to a competent gunsmith and ask him what he thinks. Listen to what he says and follow his advice. Unlike us here on a forum, he IS potentially on the hook for damages if he certifies the gun as safe and it blows up in your face.... which is one reason why most gunsmiths will not certify marginal old guns any longer.
 
I don't buy any wall hangers but I check the bore well before I purchase SxSs. If the pits aren't too bad they can be honed out
a few small pits don't seem to matter that much as far as the pattern goes. Just smooth out the bore.
 
The bores on this one look quite good, the only corrosion is in the internal breech area.
 
I’ve done 4-5 rifles (single Bbl) over 30+ years..
Only 1 percussion SxS - the Bbls were so thin (from someone) it actually had a small pin hole.
No idea of cost to have it done, but if the thickness is there in the breech - not sure I’d worry to much able a little corrosion. Be best to pull the breech plugs to inspect and measure..
 
Bobby Hoyt lined a 12 SxS suppository gun for me a few years ago. It was pitted to the point it was not safe. He asked me if I thought it was worth doing but I told him that I would have a grand total of $250 (+ shipping) in the gun when he finished, $125 per side. The barrels were so thin, made that way, that he couldn't drill it even for a 16 gauge liner so it came back a 20 and the liners were choked. Yes, they were heavier but it didn't destroy the handling. It's just heavier and you have to allow for that. I snapped the barrels into the action and headed out past the shed. Dove loads, practically no recoil. It took the gun from a wall hanger to a functioning firearm. If you are worried about your gun you could send Bobby the barrels to unbreech and inspect.
 
I have an opportunity to pick up a very nice looking English Double which has corrosion inside the breech area. I am not interested in it for a wall hanger but was wondering what the approximate cost of having the barrels lined would be and if that would even be recommended.
Cotton

You did not say if it is a breechloader or not. If the former, maybe you could just have the chambers lined.
 
I decided not to purchase this double. I determined that having the barrels lined was cost prohibitive and since the gun wasn’t in my possession I wasn’t able to examine it to determine the extent of the corrosion and I didn’t want a “wall hanger” regardless. Thanks for all the good information! Cotton
 
Most of those rusty old guns should be hung on the wall and never fired again. They are potential IED/pipe bombs. Also, having any sort of work done on them can end up costing more than the gun is worth. I have said before and I stand by it; most Damascus guns should no longer be in use. No gunsmiths I've ever met will certify them as safe any longer.

As Rich said above, relining to a smaller bore size will make the barrel heavier and thus the gun will not handle as well as it once did. Then again, I've hunted with several inexpensive shotguns that handled like a bar of lead. The things I killed with it didn't seem to notice the difference between my clunky old Savage 311 and a Purdy costing thousands of dollars. If the choice is between never firing it and getting it lined so you can fire it, albeit with less ease, maybe a clunkier barrel is a viable option.

That said, take it to a competent gunsmith and ask him what he thinks. Listen to what he says and follow his advice. Unlike us here on a forum, he IS potentially on the hook for damages if he certifies the gun as safe and it blows up in your face.... which is one reason why most gunsmiths will not certify marginal old guns any longer.
Dale
I do not know How many times I have heard it said Damascus Barrels are dangerous all barrels have a danger due to how they are looked after and how they are loaded, Has it is well known shooters in the. States are prone to loading with heavy charges but here in the UK we have a advantage mainly because we have two Proof House
Damascus barrel should be free of deep pits and mostly a good wall thickness which should be for Damascus barrels clean bore and no less than 30thou If a gunsmith told you they are dangerous most likely he was trying to off load some modern stuff this was common practice here in the uk enclosed are images of one of many sxs I restored and when finished was submitted to the Proof hose and passed
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I have an opportunity to pick up a very nice looking English Double which has corrosion inside the breech area. I am not interested in it for a wall hanger but was wondering what the approximate cost of having the barrels lined would be and if that would even be recommended.
Cotton
I'd pass. There are a lot of SXS guns out there with good to excellent bores. I saw 100's of them at the last auction I was at a few weeks ago.
 
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