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David Snellen

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Gentlemen,
What do y'all suggest for a load for a . 45 brass framed Mowrey?
Opinions on the Mowrey?
Thank you all,
David
 
I've got a .54 mowrey, shoots real well with 80 gr. fffg and .530 round ball.I've got a .45 thompson center seneca that I shoot 55gr of fffg and round ball with good results, in Colorado you can't hunt big game with a .45 round ball so I haven't killed anything bigger than a rock chuck with it but works just fine on those.Good luck with your mowrey, you'll love it, I do mine.
 
Depending on barrel length, you are going to be in the ball park with a powder charge of .50-60 grains of FFFg powder Check the actual bore diameter, as there a lot of ".45 calibers". If you check Track of the Wolf's Website, and look for .45 caliber ammunition, you will find balls in at least 65 diameters for the various ".45 cal." barrels out there. .430", .440", .445", .451", .454", and .457". I believe that Mowery has a .451" diameter bore, and can shoot either the .440 or .445 accurately.

Check the Rate of Twist( ROT) of the rifling, also. That and the groove depth will tell you if its a round ball, or bullet barrel, that is, whether the ball is designed to shoot Round Balls, or bullets instead. The ROT for RB barrels in that caliber typically run 1:48", but some come with a slower ROT. If the ROT is 1:34" or faster, it was designed to shoot bullets. Bullet barrels tend to have shallow grooves( less than .003" deep), too.

Your .45 cal. Mowery rifle can also be used for casual target shooting, or plinking, with much lighter charges of powder. That 125 grain, plus/minus, ball will kill rabbits and squirrels out to 25 yards with a charge as light as 20 grains of FFFg powder, so don't hesitate to experiement with lighter loads. When you load these guns up to the 65-70 grains range, you are usually looking to do some long range shooting( 100 yds) with your rifle at small targets.

I owned a .45 rifle for years and my target shooting load to 50 yds. was just 50 grains of FFFg behind a .440" ball and a .015" patch. But, as with all guns, I spent weeks trying different powder charges, and ball and patch combinations to find what my particular BARREL liked. Today, I could shorten that process considerably by using my chronograph, but I might not have had nearly as much fun doing all that shooting. :grin: :hmm: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 
Gentlemen,
Thank you for your help. So, 50 grains should be a good safe load? This is my wifes rifle- mine are all .50s and up, so I don't have much experience with small cal.s
Thanks again,
David
 
For shooting patched roundballs your Mowrey will be safe with powder loads up to 90 grains so 50 grains is more than safe.

It's just my opinion but if I were shooting a 240+ grain bullet I would limit my powder load to about 80 grains.
These .45 caliber (and smaller) muzzleloaders can start developing some serious breech pressures when shooting elongated bullets.
(Lymans "BLACK POWDER HANDBOOK..." shows a breech pressure of 18,400 PSI with a 240 grain slug loaded over 80 grains of GOEX 3Fg powder).
 
I don't recommend these small calibers be shot with bullets, because of the high pressures you can create as has already been noted. A PRB out of a .45 rifle will kill deer cleaning to 100 yds, with the right load, and accurate placement of the ball in the heart/lung area of the body.

There simply is no need to use conicals, unless you choose to hunt heavy skinned, and heavy boned animals like wild boar, or black bear. There are better caliber rifles to use for hunting these animals, than any .45, but in the hands of a competent shooter, and good hunter, they can be killed safely. Most deer are shot at under 50 yards, and within that range, I would not hesitate to use a .45 PRB.

Because I can't know what kind of barrel you have on that Mowrey, I was merely trying to help you with your education, so that you can save money by not buying the wrong bullet/balls, and patches for this new gun.
 
Gentlemen,
Again, thank you. Ideally since I roll 60 grains of ffg for my rifles/smoothbores I would like to use that with prb. I just don't want to overload a LIGHT rifle.
David
 
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