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JJacobs77

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Hello, thanks for letting me join. Was going through dad's stuff and came across a couple actions. Was needing some help identifying them. Pics 1-4
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Here is the second one
 

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The first action I believe is shotgun lock as well. There is a name evident on the bottom if you can get a picture of it. The second lock looks like a left handed Germanic style reproduction flintlock like a Siler. It is lacking a fly, a small detant that keeps the sear nose from falling into the halfcock notch. It would make a good lock for a left-handed Pennsylvania rifle.
 
It looks like numbers 508-19? Sorry for my post, I see what you mean now. How about a better picture of that name?
 
Yup. Hows about taking a HORIZONTAL pic? It comes up as a .png format image. What is that? The name looks like Benwick or similar....................
 
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The first is a badly altered and gunsmithed Winchester Model 12 (1912) shotgun trigger group. I'd say it is not functional in its current condition.

mhb - MIke
 
The flintlock is a modern reproduction, and has also been worked-over badly and inexplicably: the bridle is missing, as is the fly in the tumbler, the sear is held in place by a washer, leaving the tumbler shaft unsupported and there appears to have been no effort to tune or polish any of the parts - or any signs of use.

mhb - MIke
 
perhaps re-worked for a trench gun ?

If you are referring to the Model 12 trigger assembly, nothing done to it as seen in the photos would have adapted it to use with a Model 12 trench gun (or any other that I know of). The rear of the trigger guard has been hacked off, the slide stop (the detached part) is missing both of the wire springs which allow it to function, the trigger appears to be an attempt at replacement of the original part (and unfinished), and something truly odd has been done to the hammer, re-shaping it and adding some sort of excrescence to it (which faces forward in the photo). It is not possible to say what the intent of the work was, or what other internal alterations may have been attempted, but what can be seen is certainly badly done.

mhb -MIke
 
Thank you for your input. I apologize for bringing the wrong era items here. I have donated to the forum. Best of wishes everyone, stay safe.
James
 
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