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SKS_madman

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1. Are pedersoli pistol kits rifled or smooth bores?

2. How do you inlay metal into the stock?

3. Do you finish over the inlayed metal or is it removed? (shellac probably...)

4. thanks! :: :: ::
 
What part of Kentucky are you from as in how close to Lexington? The reason that I ask is that the Contemparary Longrifle Association show takes place in three weeks(August 19 & 20) in the ballroom at Lexington Center next door to Rupp Arena.You won't find any Pedersoli kits but you can meet some of the most knowledgable people involved in this hobby including among others Jim Chambers,Don Getz,L.C.Rice etc. and it's only ten dollars per family to get in. I would suggest that you pick up a copy of The Gunsmith of Greeneville County. As for inlays they are usually traced or scribed around and cut out with chisels then nailed in and filed flush so you can see that they are in place when the finish is applied and then the finish is removed from the metal with steel wool or a rubber eraser will also work.
 
1. Are pedersoli pistol kits rifled or smooth bores?

Depends on the kit.
The Kentuckys, the Screw Barrel Pistol and The Harpers Ferry are rifled, the Queen Anne is smoothbored.

2. How do you inlay metal into the stock?

As was mentioned, the inlay is positioned. I use a pointed razor knife (like an Exacto #2) to cut down into the wood all around the inlay. Little chisels are used to remove the wood under where the inlay will be. The inlay is then inserted into the pocket and held in place with tiny pins or nails.
The wood is then sanded flush with the inlay, or the inlay is filed flush with the wood.
Sooner or later, the inlay is polished and possibly engraved.

3. Do you finish over the inlayed metal or is it removed? (shellac probably...)

When it's done, there is nothing on the metal surface.
I usually mask my inlays while applying the woods surface finish just to reduce the amount of work it takes to get the finish off of them.


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I am in lexington, actually rupp is about 5 minutes from my house! :RO: :RO: :RO: BTW, will you be there? ::


Zonie, that answered everything I needed to know and then raised a few new ones.

1. How hard on a 1-10 scale is inlaying? I am no master but I am pretty good with my hands. :hmm:

2. Why use a small chizle? Wouldn't you run the risk of gouging out the wood to much?

3. what did you finish that rifle with? it BUETIFUL! :master: :master: :master: :master:
 
I'll let Zonie answer himself, but since you're interested in the Pedersoli kits, there's a build thread at this link from my build. You might find it useful.

Inlays are one of those things like most others where practice makes perfect. I will also tell you that having the right tools will make the job easier. I put three inlays on my Pedersoli: a hunter's star on each side of the barrel and a shield right behind the tang. The first two went in, but with gaps and mistakes. The third one came out best with no gaps or anything. So you might want to practice on some scrap wood first.
 
The reason that I ask is that the Contemparary Longrifle Association show takes place in three weeks(August 19 & 20) in the ballroom at Lexington Center next door to Rupp Arena.You won't find any Pedersoli kits but you can meet some of the most knowledgable people involved in this hobby including among others Jim Chambers,Don Getz,L.C.Rice etc. and it's only ten dollars per family to get in.
10bucks and 5 minutes away...What have you got to loose...Have a great time!
snake-eyes :thumbsup:
 
Static, that thread is what gave me the idea to try this, it seemed easy enough that I could do it. :haha: Thanks for all the help guys!
 
SKS: To answer your first question, I would say it depends on your eyesight. It also depends on whether your installing the inlay on a finished gun or on one which is being built.

The eyesight thing is important because your making a precision pocket in the wood and you have to see clearly just where to chisel and where not to.
The finished vs unfinished is obvious: On an unfinished stock, you can file and sand as much as you need to, to make the surfaces match. On a finished stock, you cannot adjust the woods height to match the inlay surface height.
Scale of 1 to 10? With 10 being the hardest, I'd say about a 7. It's not that it's so hard to do, it is just takes quite a bit of time and a little screw up is pretty obvious.

Why use small chisels? Using a large chisel is kinda like trying to park a Semi in a Compact Car parking space. It just won't fit. Remember, your trying to create a nice smooth surface about .040 below the stock surface for the inlay to sit on and you have to remove the wood in all of the little corners of the pocket without damageing the walls of the pocket.
On round or oval inlays it's not too hard to do, but if the inlay has little points like a star, the chisel has to get down into those corners.

These are some of the chisels I've made to work in these tiny pockets:
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The Franklin County rifle is Curly Maple stained with Birchwood Casey Walnut stain and Colonial Brown Stain. It's finished with about 15 coats of hand rubbed Birchwood Casey Tru-Oil.
If you would like to read a little more on inlays follow these LINKS INLAYS
INLAYING 2

By the way, Susie at Muzzleloading Builders Supplies has dozens of different inlays in Brass, German Silver and Sterling Silver. They don't cost very much either. :)
 
You bet I'll be there Madman. I work about 5 miles from there myself and come 4:00 Fri. I'm on my way.
Be forewarned that this can become a terrible sickness. I introduced a guy that I work with to this show last year and now he has a full blown fever that only a Chambers kit can cure. I'm betting it only holds him till the next fix. ::
 
Treerat, I hope not! Man, I bought my first gun 8 months ago, I now have 4 rifles, 3 parts kits and an "I want this" list a mile long. :shocking: Another addiction and I will have to get a loan! :crackup:

Zonie, I will go check that site out. I have 20/20 or better vision. This might be a little hard but it doesn't sound impossible. ::
 
Treerat, look for a 16 year old kid with long hair (like 5 inches) that looks out of place, thats me. :haha:
 
That could describe me when I first started playing around with black powder. The sad part is that Carter was president at the time = getting old.
Don't worry about being confused or feeling out of place. There are all kinds of people willing to help not just trying to sell you a bundle of goods to make a buck off of you.
If you see an old guy in his forties with Bill Curtis on his nametag be sure to introduce yourself. :front:
 
I like all machines, and flintlocks I can work on, legally. :: This seems good, that and I think the flintlocks/older military arms have a little bit of soul missing in today's arms. Know what I mean?
 
"...I think the flintlocks/older military arms have a little bit of soul missing in today's arms. Know what I mean?"

Sounds like a man, wise beyond his years. :)
 
As a Newbie, I would also add the fact that if you make your own,
IT IS A ONE OF A KIND, HANDMADE
Mine is going to have flaws and errors, just like it's builder
 
:agree: I know, I have done pretty much all the things I will be doing to this gun on others before, this one will just be a bigger project. :: I refinish the stock on almost every mil-surp I buy. I have re-blued stuff before because of surface rust. This should just be a test for all my different skills. ::
 
Tricky Dick was President when I first started into this stuff. But I am still only 29.......................and holding. :blah: :blah: :blah:You young whippersnappers are just that: young! :kid:
 
SKS
I have rebuilt a number of mil-suplus weapons. I remounted a couple of 03's in semi-inletted stocks and did stock repair on more M1's then I care to talk about here.
These are much diffent and more involved.
You are going to need to do MAJOR WOOD shaping and fitting and drilling.
I am just a newbie also and I have had to buy more tools then I ever needed to work on centerfire rifles
Sorry to mention them here.
 
On the pedersoli kits everything is pre-done, all I need to do is finish the barrel and maybe polish the internals a bit to help trigger pull. But this is just what I have read, and seen in statisXD00d's thread. :: This is no TOTW kit, its basically a production gun without final finishing/polishing. ::
 
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