Well I went ahead an ordered the Lyman kit. I have read some negative stuff on the forum about the lyman firing, and I hope I don't run into that. I ordered a 54 cal. Not sure why, but I guess the main reason was because I own at least one of every "common" caliber from a 32 to a 50 so the next step was a 54. I may need help and I am sure that I have a ot of help on the forum. Wish me luck.