Lyman Plains vs. T/C Hawkin

[riarcher]

Is there that much Diff. between the 2?
Looking for pros and cons on the .50 cal. flinter.
Input welcomed! :hmm:

 

[Bob J]

They're both good choices! Both are accurate and of good quality. The lyman GPR has the edge on "authentic looks" :imo: The T.C. has a good warranty and, just perhaps, and edge on quality. The believe you'd do well with either one.

 

I can't nock either gun both are excellent,the only draw-back with lyman is (GPR)the overall weight and I think the warranty is only good for 1 year,on the other hand I have 4 t/c m/l 2 are flints, 1 a inline,1 a sidelock,all are great shooters and t/c warranty is outstanding.
lyman also has the slow and fast twist barrels and t/c are 1 in 48 twist,I would think you also have to shoulder the guns to see which one fits you best. :redthumb:

 

[cayugad]

As already said, they are both good rifles. The Lyman Great Plains being a little more correct if your a person who wants to "look" more traditional.

Also the Thompson Center Hawkins has a 1-48 twist barrel which will shoot roundball and conicals. You can get different barrels that will fit the rifle through Green Mountain Barrel Company and basically have any kind of twist you like.

The Lyman Great Plains Rifle is a 1-60 twist which is for shooting roundball. They are great shooters. The Lyman Great Plains Hunter Rifle has a 1-32 twist which is more suited for conicals. You can also get barrels that will change these over just by getting a different Lyman Barrel.

I personally own a T/C .50 caliber Hawkins Flintlock that is a great shooting rifle. The lock time is real fast and so far I could not be more pleased with the rifle.

I also have a Lyman Trade Rifle Flintlock that shoots fantastic. The lock time is real fast and I really enjoy shooting this rifle as well. It would be hard to choose between the two.

You might want to consider a .54 caliber but if you have your heart set on a .50 caliber it will do you just fine. Good luck....

 

[roundball]

I can't nock either gun both are excellent,the only draw-back with lyman is (GPR)the overall weight and I think the warranty is only good for 1 year,on the other hand I have 4 t/c m/l 2 are flints, 1 a inline,1 a sidelock,all are great shooters and t/c warranty is outstanding.
lyman also has the slow and fast twist barrels and t/c are 1 in 48 twist,I would think you also have to shoulder the guns to see which one fits you best. :redthumb:

FYI...some additional clarification...

TC's standard barrels for the Hawken & Renegade are 1:48" twist...and TC round ball barrels are also available in 1:66" twist.

Rifles can either be ordered with RB barrels or they can be purchased as additional barrels, etc...have some of each and they're excellent shooters.

And as others have said, TC's lifetime warranty is real and second to none.
:redthumb:

 

[jim gray]

It seems that a lot of people as I did have to file the Lyman front sight to get it to hit point of aim; in my case this was even true when I used the adjustable sight. The T/C sights are much more easily adjusted. I have a GPR .50 cal. flint, and a T/C Renegade in .58 cal. I like them both and would hate to part with either one.

I tend to agree with the others if it came down to choosing one or the other the T/C, being American made and having a lifetime warranty, would win out.

Before you buy, however, you would be wise to at least consider getting a .54 caliber. I'm not saying that a .54 is right for you, but I think that it would be a lot more versatile.

 

[jimbo15563]

I'm fixing to trade my TC on a Lyman because I'm left-handed and want to get the flash pan away from my face - TC doesn't make lefties

Jimbo

 

[Ivery Keys]

I agree with the above, both are good all purpose rifles. I tend to lean toward the Lyman because I also am a lefty and Lyman makes just about everything in a LH model. I also like the sights on the Lyman better. I detest the sights that come on all TC rifles, they just do not look right on that ML barrell. Seems like they could at least put a buckhorn with elevator on as an option. Most people end up shooting RB rather than conical, so the Lyman is set up better than that also. As far as warranty, I do not know of anyone ever having to send a Lyman back, but have known of one TC to go back because of a misthreaded screw...

Regards,

Ivery

 

[riarcher]

Ivery,,,,,,, I definately agree about the rear sight looking out of date (place?).

Others-
On filing the front sight,,, GREAT! got to admit it's better than trying to solder on add'l hiegth.

.58 over the .50? Being mostly a swamp hunter (50 yds. and under) with a rare "across the corn field oppertunity" You all got me to thinking about the .58's "brush busting" appeal. :hmm: Food for thought.

I don't see me hunting "Griz" or Elk. (Hmm, moose maybe, 'taint that far to Maine ff

Just something about the GPR that is seeming to "grab me right. :: But it does seem to cry "you better use a shoulder pad" with that big hook. ::

 

[Rebel]

Actually, it isn't hard on your shoulder even with some pretty stiff loads from offhand. It can get your attention off a benchrest with heavy charges though. Sighting in, you might want to use a pad between the buttplate and your shoulder.

 

[jim gray]

I'm sorry to do this because you are trying to narrow your choice down, but if you just want a rifle to hunt with you may also want to consider the Lyman Trade Rifle. I think it is also an excellent choice and the price isn't bad.

The LTR offers the same sight choice as the GPR and is a good shooter with patched roundballs as well as a number of different conicals.

There's no set-trigger, but I have no complaints about my trigger. It's not the same as the T/C or GPR set-triggers, but it's fine for hunting.