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Making Circassian or Caucasian flintlock - miquelet
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Excellent work Andrey!
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It is enlightening to confirm that there are also old style gun nuts /Enthusiasts/devotees in areas we or I wondered how such as we made out . Despite the political divied and the often repressive outlook of Stalin & others , There are people just as like minded as us .Great ! Dobbra? . I met one Sam Senkow of Wyoming at an Eastern R.vous he was the only man I met was into Turkish stuff .I like such items. Made up some rifles but used the old locks that seem to be common on blankets Bought three at the first Shawnee used them all up . a fellow sold a bunch of Locks to Ackerman at one F 'ship shoot but he gave me a Miguelet lock saying "I like your demeanor", Its a gun now . Turkish / Persian ect stocks LOOK odd but they handle fine I've often hunted for days with a rifled carbine . The capucine or barrel band idea is sound, The Kurdish Damascuss barrels being like the Spanish thought sacrocanct and cutting dove tails seldom met .Though Ive hitched in Turkey I can only recall three words 'Teshicushidirum', ' Byreack' ' Thank you' &' Flag' respectively( as I seem to forgotten . the last one !.) Andrey22 is a positive tonic good on him .
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Hi Andrey
Like the Turkish lock, again wonderful workmanship. You have a real talent. Looking forward to the finished lock. If it will help, I have a plain detached Circassian lock (pistol size) that I can photograph the inside and outside of the lock and send you. But it looks like you are already well ahead without it. LOL
Meantime, here are a couple pics of two I have in shooting condition. Lock on the rifle is of the Caucasian/Persian style which is also very common. The pistol has the typical Circassian variety that you are building.
Again, looking forward to your lock build.
Rick
Like the Turkish lock, again wonderful workmanship. You have a real talent. Looking forward to the finished lock. If it will help, I have a plain detached Circassian lock (pistol size) that I can photograph the inside and outside of the lock and send you. But it looks like you are already well ahead without it. LOL
Meantime, here are a couple pics of two I have in shooting condition. Lock on the rifle is of the Caucasian/Persian style which is also very common. The pistol has the typical Circassian variety that you are building.
Again, looking forward to your lock build.
Rick
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Hi Andrey
That looks great. You are making very quick progress. Looking at these pics reminded me of another minor issue when disassembling a miquelet lock for cleaning etc. You don't have access to the frizzen spring until you first remove the front bar. But even when the frizzen is in the open position, there is some upward tension pushing against the foot of the frizzen from the frizzen spring. Not much, but the tension is still there. So this causes some stress on the threads of the frizzen screw while trying to remove the frizzen and front bar to get access to the frizzen spring. Does this make sense what I'm trying to say ? LOL. What I have done in the past is to close the frizzen on top of the pan, and then use needle nose type vise grip with two tiny pieces of leather to clamp the frizzen to the pan. Then I can remove the frizzen/front bar screw with no stress. But maybe you have a better idea ?
Rick
That looks great. You are making very quick progress. Looking at these pics reminded me of another minor issue when disassembling a miquelet lock for cleaning etc. You don't have access to the frizzen spring until you first remove the front bar. But even when the frizzen is in the open position, there is some upward tension pushing against the foot of the frizzen from the frizzen spring. Not much, but the tension is still there. So this causes some stress on the threads of the frizzen screw while trying to remove the frizzen and front bar to get access to the frizzen spring. Does this make sense what I'm trying to say ? LOL. What I have done in the past is to close the frizzen on top of the pan, and then use needle nose type vise grip with two tiny pieces of leather to clamp the frizzen to the pan. Then I can remove the frizzen/front bar screw with no stress. But maybe you have a better idea ?
Rick
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Hi Andrey
WOW!! The lock looks great. Yes, I see the issue with the sear and the rear lock bolt. Also, at half-**** position, is there enough space between the nose of the hammer and the frizzen face for a flint ?
Super job. Especially considering the first time making one from a detail drawing.
Rick
WOW!! The lock looks great. Yes, I see the issue with the sear and the rear lock bolt. Also, at half-**** position, is there enough space between the nose of the hammer and the frizzen face for a flint ?
Super job. Especially considering the first time making one from a detail drawing.
Rick
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Hi Andrey
Again, outstanding work. Looks like it's almost complete now. Interesting you mention your customer's preference for domed head screws. On virtually every Eastern/Ottoman/Balkan, etc. rifle/pistol I have owned, held, or viewed, you see the use of domed head screws versus the pan head screws used on other European guns. I've never understood the reason for this. It's just a small feature, but I find it curious since it shows up on virtually all guns from this region.
Does your customer plan on mounting the lock to a gun ?
Just for fun, here is an original (pistol size) Circassian lock from my collection. Used, but still in working order.
Rick
Again, outstanding work. Looks like it's almost complete now. Interesting you mention your customer's preference for domed head screws. On virtually every Eastern/Ottoman/Balkan, etc. rifle/pistol I have owned, held, or viewed, you see the use of domed head screws versus the pan head screws used on other European guns. I've never understood the reason for this. It's just a small feature, but I find it curious since it shows up on virtually all guns from this region.
Does your customer plan on mounting the lock to a gun ?
Just for fun, here is an original (pistol size) Circassian lock from my collection. Used, but still in working order.
Rick
Andrey22
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Thank you!
Your flintlock miquelet is very interesting. He has screws installed on the inside and another design of the front bar.
Yes, my miquelet this is a small pistol flintlock. The length of the lock plate is 80 mm.
I previously made a large Circassian flintlock - miquelet for a rifle. If you have detailed photos of the original Circassian flintlock rifle, please show.
Your flintlock miquelet is very interesting. He has screws installed on the inside and another design of the front bar.
Yes, my miquelet this is a small pistol flintlock. The length of the lock plate is 80 mm.
I previously made a large Circassian flintlock - miquelet for a rifle. If you have detailed photos of the original Circassian flintlock rifle, please show.
Cory Joe Stewart
32 Cal
Very neat work and project. Thanks for sharing.
Cory Joe Stewart
Cory Joe Stewart
