Manton Lock and Main spring interference

[Birddog6]

I think you will need more shot & less dia. Like 7.5 or #8. You are not gonna believe how big the pattern is going to be at 20 yards if it is not choked. Which with #6 shot is going to leave allot of holes in the pattern.
to aim at, & check the pattern & the density & etc. Then adjust the shot size to get the coverage you need to eliminate the non covered areas, or what I term as a "Hole in the Pattern". This is a area where the bird could be & not receive a fatal pellet.

Keith Lisle

 

[jamesthomas]

This has GOT to be the best Muzzleloader site EVER, Between Birddog6, 54Ball, Stophel, and others its like having them right behind you has you work. I bet this post will help other folks if they run into the same problem. 54 ball pictures also show how the rifle should flow down from the tang into the wrist area.

 

[Birddog6]

Part of my reply got chopped out somehow. Should be:

I think you will need more shot & less dia. Like 7.5 or #8. You are not gonna believe how big the pattern is going to be at 20 yards if it is not choked. Which with #6 shot is going to leave allot of holes in the pattern.
I buy a roll of Butcher Paper, like used in the meat dept at the store. Put a black 3" circle in the center to aim at, & check the pattern & the density & etc.
Then adjust the shot size to get the coverage you need to eliminate the non covered areas, or what I term as a "Hole in the Pattern". This is a area where the bird could be & not receive a fatal pellet.

You can also try dif wad thicknesses & lubes & etc & it will change your pattern some. You can also make paper shot cups if it is Really open & you want to close it up a bit.

Keith Lisle

 

[fusil de chase]

Kieth, thanks alot, your saving me a steep and painful learning curve.

Good to know about the pattern improvement attainable with paper shot cups, I have always been interested in that idea. I am guessing it helps reduce fouling as well?

Did not get anything done today aside from some tool sharpening, a 9 th light installed over the bench and got new leather covered hardwood blocks made up for the vice. Hopefully tommorow I can get some momentum going with all the learnin this thread has provided.

Thanks again, confidence is high.

 

[fusil de chase]

Butcher Paper, like used in the meat dept at the store.

LOL, if you knew how much butcher's paper I use in a year you'd howl at the thought of my going to a store's meat dept. about 1000 pounds wrapped this fall, not including the premium cuts vac sealed.
Kid's text books get covered in it, boat patterns cut from it, xmas presents wrapped in it, truck carpets covered in it, rifles sighted on it, new cartridge gun chokes patterned on it. LOL. I get it in rolls that would break your leg if it fell on ya. Love the stuff. It is the duct tape of the simpler and poorer man.

I was pretty wowed though a couple years ago when I found the pattern board at the local range. I had never seen one before, they mix paint and grease together (so the paint does not dry) you use a roller to cover the board, shoot and then you can instantly create a new fresh surface. Shows up the pattern real well and now adays with digital pics you can snap a pic if you need to preserve data. I had been using reams of paper and the whole time the board was 50 feet away LOL.

 

[Birddog6]

In my regular business I ship items daily & I buy rolls of 36" brown packing paper. Also the place I get it from has white paper which is like butcher paper but doesn't have the sealer in it. So I need more brown paper, I get a roll of that white paper as well.
A roll of 36" wide paper will takes the regular guy a LONG time to use up in targets. I have not bought a target in a store for ? 30 years I guess.
I have large flat washers with dif size holes, can of cheap flat black paint & have all the targets I need of dif bull sizes in just a few minutes & cost pennies.......

Keith Lisle