Matchlock {Japanese} Powder flask

[Greyman]

I ahve just aquired the powder flask illustrated.Although I know a little about the guns, these are new to me.

It looks a little 'Plastic' although alledged to be from the Edo period.
Any thoughts?. :redface:

 

[bezoar]

Last i checked powder flasks came in two sizes. Normally a large bottle shape for pouring down the muzzle. and a small round flask for priming. Dont forget the lacquared up chargers hung in a box at the hip.

 

[bovey]

You may want to examine "The Japanese Matchlock: A Story of the Tangashima" by Shiego Sugawa. There are some fine examples of powder containers, loading tubes, cartridge boxes, and other necessary accouterments. The containers were basically made of wood or bamboo, wrapped with animal skin or paper, and then lacquered. The ball pouches are a bit unique in that they allow a single ball to slide into a beak-like or talon shaped mouth for dispensing.

 

[bezoar]

Not all bullet pouches have the bird beak to get a bullet out. The sony family has a nice bullet pouch that is simply two hardened pieces of leather molded into a flask shape connected on the bottom with a leather hinge, and kept closed with a leather thong.

The round flasks, do you need to coat the wood on the inside with anything?

 

[bovey]

I thought the bullet pouches were unusual as I have never seen the birds beak style before. I do not know if the round flasks were coated on the inside. The only reference was made to the outer coating of the flask.

 

[Greyman]

Post deleted by Claypipe

 

Your website appears, IMHO, to be a commercial site. Sale of items are restricted to the classified section of the forum. Therefore I find myself compelled to remove the links. And ask that you use a proper URL to any images you wish to display in your posts.

 

[bezoar]

His website is an online photo gallery of what he has collected, AND an online store front. And hawking wares is strictly for the classifieds section of this website.

However the original posting said nothing about him wanting to sell the piece, nor did he ask what anyone would offer him for it. All he was ask if we thought it was actually from the time period it is supposed to be from.

And no one else to my knowledge has been deleted for posting a link to an item that may be for sale.

 

That is because we try to be quiet about it. The website in question carries a "Paypal Verified" logo and a currency converter at the top. This says commercial website to me. 30% of this members postings carried a link to this website. Bottom line, Board rules are as follows:

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[Greyman]

I accept all you say,my mistake but I would like to clarify a couple of points.

The Currency converter & Paypal on the site relate to a problem I had when I started to sell some of my collection on e.bay.
Quite a percentage of buyers are from the US,trying to get $/

 

[Claude Mathis]

His website is an online photo gallery of what he has collected, AND an online store front.

Perhaps I can clarify this. Although a commercial web site may offer something for free, such as a gallery or other free information, it is still considered to be a commercial site. Many large commercial sites offer "how-to" info and articles for their customers. Throwing in a few "free things" does not make it a "personal site".

Unfortunately for some members, their personal site may be rolled in with their commercial site.

And no one else to my knowledge has been deleted for posting a link to an item that may be for sale.

They have. :winking:

 

[Greyman]

His website is an online photo gallery of what he has collected, AND an online store front.

Perhaps I can clarify this. Although a commercial web site may offer something for free, such as a gallery or other free information, it is still considered to be a commercial site. Many large commercial sites offer "how-to" info and articles for their customers. Throwing in a few "free things" does not make it a "personal site".

Unfortunately for some members, their personal site may be rolled in with their commercial site.

And no one else to my knowledge has been deleted for posting a link to an item that may be for sale.

They have. :winking:

Trust the winking does not have a secret anti English message :haha:

Actually there is one just below mine that seems to be directing to a sale of a 'Wicklock' is that another ball game?.
:what:

 

[Claude Mathis]

Actually there is one just below mine that seems to be directing to a sale of a 'Wicklock' is that another ball game?.
:what:

Same game. It has been deleted and the member has been notified.

 

[Greyman]

Since the last post I have had the flask "Checked" by a chap who is really into these things. He thinks that the body is right and Edo period but the cap/measure is modern.
The Mon and lacquer are ok plus the construction is of wood, I had a suspicion that it may be plastic. Sorry you cannot see it but please read the previous post, pity as it may have saved some a few.........

:hmm:

So buying from Japan does not always indicate authenticity..........