Just got into BP pistols. Has become kinda of a sickness for me as I only hunt once a year with a BP rifle and just enjoy taking one of my pistols to a range and only having to clean it. Middlesex guns are like others say, working guns. Not things of beauty, more like rugers compared to a colt. I will say that I would rather have a MVTC pistol than any spanish made pistol. In fact, I like my MVTC better than my 300.00 Pedersoli Kentucky. There made like tanks but lack the grace and lovely lines of custom flinters. But, hey where are you going to drop three bills and get something that goes off everytime and will still be working long after were all gone. Hand forged metal, tested locks, too much wood. Not a bad compromise for the $$$.