ML Article in current Field & Stream

[fatboy]

My hunting buddy I just got into Ml showed this article to me and the price of the TC Hawkin was way out of line I told him the price was inflated. And the bit about the RB being ballisticly inferior on paper :nono:

 

[Zonie]

"...And the bit about the RB being ballisticly inferior on paper."
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Ah hope ye stratened him out on that un two.

Em roundballs poke a reel guud hole rite thru paper! :grin:
In fakt, ah aint seen one papar targut win yet! :rotf:

Korse, Ah did hav one targut that got uppity an pulled free of tha staples an came a chargin uprange at mee. It stell didn't winn tho. Ah stomped on it wit ma shoo.

 

[Ridge]

I read The Backwoodsman as well.

It's the only magazine I buy on a regular basis.

The 'net took care of my subscription to Field and Stream........as well as Penthouse. :grin:

 

[nchawkeye]

I have kept a couple of Outdoor Life mags from the '70s...both had articles written by Jim Carmicheal...One related to how he used to hike over to Hacker Martin's home and watch him work..Had some beautiful flintlocks pictured...
The other was a few year later, seems Jim picked up enough info from Hacker to make money in college building and selling flintlocks...He had a buddy that built a .32 caplock, just for squirrel hunting...The article related their first squirrel hunt with the gun...I remember how he closed the article..."It was a time well remembered"

Most of us will never be a spokesperson for the newer wiz-bang muzzleloaders...We learned years ago that its the time spent with nature that gives us those memories...and sometimes less...is more.

 

[patch knife]

Yes , there once was a time when hunting/fishing and gun mags were entertaining and informative . I used to enjoy reading them . Now they have pretty much become a marketing tool . All they want to do is sell you more gear . I stopped buying them years ago .

 

[wire]

I think as far as the new muzzleloaders go and any articles talking about them is as has been said before a ploy to sell a new product.When I first decided to get involved in this sport or better yet life style.I did it to reconnect with the past and to hunt the way it used to be done.Yes its harder but thats the charm I was always told anything easy is not as fun.So when I purchased my Hawken I was chastised by my buddies for buying something that would only lead to my dissapointment in the hunting field.And it seems strange that considering where I live in Virginia so many animals and men have fallen to these types of weapons since the time of Jamestown and numerous wars since.It almost makes these articles not worthy of reading.This country would not be what it is today without our trusty flintlocks and caplocks of yesteryear.

 

[Zonie]

IMO, it is the nature of man to want to improve existing things.

It is the nature of industry to want to update and upgrade products and create new products. This includes creating a market for them if none exists.

It is the nature of the News Media to want to be the first to tell others about these "improvements" and who can provide them.

I think we are a unique group who appreciates our history and the tools which were used to create it while the majority couldn't care less about it.
That is why most modern magazines will never give us the subject matter we want.

The best we can do is to inspire others to develop a intrest in our past and the tools used by our forefathers.

Boy! That made ma hed hert. :grin:

Zonie

 

[faw3]

boomer and Zonie, ya remember the old saying about some people's taste is all in the mouth (and they couldnt handle anything that isnt the newst and best ect) That covers it dont it? Fred :hatsoff:

 

[Zonie]

fw: You will notice that I didn't say some of the redesigns were good, or that I liked them.

I do like some of them though.
I have a car that doesn't need it's ignition points or spark plugs changed every 5000 miles.

I have a computer that is more powerful than the best the US could buy 40 years ago.

My microwave can bake a potato in 6 minutes.

My risk of being killed in a airplane is so low it really isn't worth thinking about now-a-days.

Rather than being blind like poor old Jim Bridger, I can see clearly with my plastic lenses inside my eyes.

Lots of good things have been invented/improved etc. over the years.
We just happen to like the old style guns and isn't it good that we do?
If it wasn't for folks like us, others would never dream of actually touching history. :grin:

 

[RedFeather]

What gets me about Field & Stream and Outdoor Life, et al, are the ads in the back. Where once there were blurbs for hunting lodges, sure-fire gear and raising bloodworms for fun or profit, now there seem to be a preponderance of Viagra-inspired testimonials and generous offerings for instruction in the Art of Love. I get the impression that the average reader needs more than help with his smokepole, if (as Ernest used to say) ya-know-what-I-mean??? :grin:

 

[faw3]

Im happy ya see it my way! :grin: Oh it may be just bitchen, but when you seta ml hunting record I just belve it should be with something like has been used a few 100 yrs not look like a Rem 30-06 and shoot the same kind of bullet. Seems fair to me? A guy that gets a record elk ect with a RB has done something, the guy useing something that loads from the front but has a scope and 300 range doesnt impress me at all, just my 2 cents. :v Fred :hatsoff: we are only 10% or less than the BP shooters now so why not try to hang on to every scrap we can.

 

[Halftail]

we are only 10% or less than the BP shooters now so why not try to hang on to every scrap we can.

Yeah but we are the BEST
10% !! :v

 

[faw3]

Damn Right! :bow: :bow: :bow: FRED :thumbsup:

 

[CARBABY]

If there is some one viewing the forum and new to muzzleloading. Take the advice of several of the “commenters” here. CHECK OUT THE BACKWOODSMAN! One can get more out of the letters to the editor in Backwoodsman than a full blast article in F&S and OL. Per “Crackstocks” comment on “write one and send it in.” Try Backwoodsman first. F&S, OL have too many professional journalism types vying for publication. One’s chances for publication acceptance would be better with Backwoodsman. IMHO ~ I don’t work for Backwoodsman. The verbal recommendations by all (see above) on BACKWOODSMAN are good reference for a person interested in muzzleloading.

 

[Slamfire]

Let me know when we become 1%ers so we can act like the curmudgeons we apparently are. :rotf:

 

[CrackStock]

DeathWind,

I agree, but there is one problem there. You are preaching to the choir there! Everyone who reads that mag is already in our fold. I want some of us to reach out to the modern guys and save them from the dark side.

CS

 

[faw3]

What gets me was his claim to it was the :cursing: bad word rifle that got ML going again, only a small hand full use none :cursing: ect, whats that doing in muz Blast? I guess as we die off well get down to that 1% :rotf: Till then I still dont count a record with a :cursing: vs what I shoot. Nuff said. Fred :thumbsup: EDIT I tryed to put this in twice and got a Field and Steam add?????????

 

[Don]

I've been gettin Backwoodsman for about 3 years now and its awsome!

Don

 

[faw3]

Id been getting a mag at a store here for years, real good mag and then 4 months ago they stopped carrying it, I just looked and it is Backwoodsman. :shake: Fred :hatsoff: :redface:

 

[Stumpkiller]

I still look through my issues of Buckskinner magazine and sadly reflect on what might have been. * sigh *

Now the idea of writing a "real" muzzleloading article for either Field & Stream or Outdoor Life has some merit. Wonder how they'd warm to an article with absolutely NO advertisers or mass producers mentioned.

In truth, I think they'd publish it if it was otherwise a good read.