Moose juice or snot?

[tx50cal]

From what I understand from reading the juice is a good lube for the range and snot is for hunting. Is this correct. Can I use the juice on patch strips that are allowed to dry for hunting? Will it soak into my powder from the oils? If I can get away with just using one I would like to . Thanks for the help.
Rob

 

[wtilenw]

I use the "Juice" for all my shooting. I soak strips of patching material in the solution ( I pour off the anticipated amount in a quart paint can with a lid ). Let the material soak up the solution, I even put the lid on and shake it up real well to make sure the solution is not seperated, then pull strips out one at a time and lay on plastic food wrap on a flat surface and let dry overnight. The next day I repeat the operation with the same can of solution and let dry a second time. This produces a "semi-dry" patch, not dripping because the alcohol has evaporated leaving the oils in the fabric.(Just a note; I do not re-use the solution a second time because it has been diluted by the procedure of soaking patches. That's why I pour off just what I need for a batch of patch strips.) I then tear off about 3" wide strips of the food wrap and lay one strip of patching on the food wrap, fold the end and sides over the patch strip and roll up tight. This stores the patch material with a layer of plastic food wrap as a barrier to the lube migrating unevenly throughout the patch material. As I need patching, I just unroll as needed and roll back up to keep fesh and even. It works very well for me. I made some "Moose Snot" for patched ball in a loading block and that works very well for that application. So, if you are used to or prefer a heavy lube or not so heavy, either one will work well.
My experiences only, your mileage may vary.
Idaho PRB

 

[Harold1950]

I have a question about the juice and snot. Does the patch material deteriate or weaken after being stored over time? I am just curious. I don't mean to sidetrack the original post.

 

[tx50cal]

I have been using bore butter for years. It is just a mess to put on patch strips. The best way I have found to put it on strips is to melt it down and dip the strips in it. I am looking to experiment with the moose juice because it seems to the easiest to apply. I guess that after the water and alcohol evaporate all that is left is the caster and murphy"s it shouldn"t be too messy.

 

[wtilenw]

I have a question about the juice and snot. Does the patch material deteriate or weaken after being stored over time? I am just curious. I don't mean to sidetrack the original post.

I haven't had any signs of patch deterioration with the Moose Juice and I have shot patches that have been lubed for over a year.
When I used ballistol & water and Napa water soluble oil and water, I noticed patch material deterioration when stored for long periods of time.
Idaho PRB

 

[Stumpkiller]

I have a question about the juice and snot. Does the patch material deteriate or weaken after being stored over time? I am just curious. I don't mean to sidetrack the original post.

To answer that question some time back I left my New Englander loaded for 11 months in my attached but unheated garage (December 2006 to
November 2007). I also left the loading block with four Moose Juice "dry-lubed" patches - that is: dipped twice and dried in between on waxed paper.

Here is the group I fired at 50 yards with 11 month old powder (in plastic tubes) the 11 month old shot from the bore (highest one on the paper) and the 11 month old patched balls from the block. The recovered patching was toasted but intact and showed a bit of light around the rifling contact when held up to the sky; but certainly held up. This is Joanne's Fabric 0.018" cotton tick. I did have to spit-wipe every other shot as a lot of the "lubricity" had gone from the patching.

Note that I was aiming at the bottom tip of the square and my normal sighting should have put the balls in the white (I am sighted 1-1/2" high at 50 yards). So it does effect point of aim to use old patching.

Anymore I use the Moose Juice as a powder solvent and load with The Moose Snot. I still use the Moose Juice dipped & dried when I'm shooting a lot. Point of aim seems indifferent to either.

I just shot a deer today with a patched ball from last summer that I popped out of the block, wiped some additional Moose Snot on and popped back in the block prior to opening day.