More on patch lube

[GreyWhiskers]

Years ago I tried 3 or 4 of the commercial patch lubes. Most had the consistency of Crisco and all of them would allow me to shoot 3 or 4 shots before the patched ball would be hard to run down the barrel.
A friend gave me his concoction of Simple-Green, water-soluable oil and water. Now I can shoot 25 shots without having to clean between shots. And clean up at the end of the day is easy.
I haven't put the rifle on a bench to check for a difference in accuracy but it seems OK. At a recent rendezvous there were plenty of shooters using Simple-Green only. Anybody have experience with this?

 

[J.D.]

I wouldn't necessarily believe the folks who reported they were shooting straight simple green. Some folks will lie through their teeth to keep anyone from knowing what they are really using. It keeps the competition from catching up, dontchaknow.

IMHO, if the patch lube you are currently using works, stay with it. If it aint broke, don't fix it.
J.D.

 

[riarcher]

I used 50/50 mixes of Windex and/or Fantastic, 409, Simple before. Seemed ok for range work, not too happy about leaving loaded for hunting this way though.
Since all my range work is for the purpose of hunting, I only use my hunting combos.
Went greased patch (BB, etc.).

 

[Zonie]

Simple Green, Fantastic, 409 etc all would make loading fairly easy because they are watery so they wipe off the fouling as the ball/patch is rammed.

My concern with them is the same as my concern with using plain old spit. They don't have any rust preventive in them. In fact, they, unlike spit, will actually remove whatever oil/wax might be in the bore protecting it from rust.

IMO, there needs to be something to protect the bore between the time you load and the time you actually shoot the gun.
Of course, if your target shooting where there is only a minute or so before shooting, this is a non issue, but if you are hunting and the load will be carried all day before it's shot, the bore should be protected.

I'm sure you already know of Stumpys Moose Juice so you are aware it contains Castor Oil as one of its ingrediants.
Because of the oil in it, the bore is automatically "oiled" when you ram the ball/patch, and because it is watery it removes any fouling that may be present from the last shot just like the Simple Green, etc does.

Here is a Link to Stumpys Lube;
MOOSE JUICE

 

[GreyWhiskers]

Zonie, thanks for the "moose juice" link. For target shooting I'm happy with my simple green/ water-soluable oil concoction. But you have a good point about leaving the barrel unprotected.