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If you are like me and have always wondered why that piece of leather we put over a frizzen as a safety device is called a 'Hammer Stall' ... here's you answer!

"Frizzen"

The singular problem with the "frizzen," the metal arm of the lock portion of a flintlock that sparks when struck by a flint, is the word "frizzen" itself. The term is conspicuously absent in drill manuals that predate the American Civil War. It is not found in the 1825 drill manual, nor in the "Abstract" of 1828. It is not found in Gen. Winfield Scott’s Tactics manual dated 1836 on. Perhaps the term "frizzen" comes from America’s colonial experience? Mr. Mark Tully of Baraboo effectively dismantles this notion:

Rifles, pistols, muskets, fusees, carbines--the one thing that they all have in common is the lock. But how well do each of us know the various parts that comprise this vital piece of machinery? Perhaps the most common faux pas we make when talking with the public about our weapons is in calling the cock a hammer and the hammer a ”˜frizzen.’ The cock apparently got its name from its resemblance to a pecking rooster, and only became known as a "hammer" much later in the percussion-cap era. As for the term ”˜frizzen,’ there simply was no such word in the 18th-century; in fact I could not find ”˜frizzen’ listed in ANY dictionary, new or old, including the huge, multi-volume Oxford Dictionary of the English Language. The best guess I have heard so far is that this anachronistic term dates from the late 19th or early 20th-century and is a corruption of the Dutch or Germanic word ”˜frizzel’ or ”˜furison,’ both of which were apparently first used to described the hammer of a flintlock in 1892.
The term ”˜frizzen cover’ is also an anachronism. Both Simes and Cuthbertson talk of ”˜hammer stalls,’ being used as a safety device, but there is no mention of frizzens or frizzen covers in either text. The hammer can also be referred to as a ”˜steel,’ but should never be called a frizzen.

The word "frizzen" is not found in Noah Webster’s 1828 American Dictionary of the English Language. Work by museum professional and historian Mike Breza indicated "I did take a look in a 1810 and 1814 dictionary. I found no frizzen in either. I also see that touch hole (cannon) and touch pan (musket) are used then. A gun a soldier uses is a firelock. No other info could be gained."

Webster's 1828 Dictionary defined "cock" as The part of a musket or other fire arm, to which a flint is attached, and which, being impelled by a spring, strikes fire, and opens the pan at the same time. Finally, I located several pre-Civil War manuals that lists flintlock nomenclature. While one such manual terms the "cock" as the "hammer" (a percussion weapon term,) there is again NO mention of the frizzen.

Some investigators have claimed that that the term "frizzen" is a civilian term. Indeed, my good friend Jim Patton pointed out a mention of "frizen" in Ellen Whitney's The Black Hawk War 1831-2, Vol. II, Letters and Papers, Part II, p. 1238:
Henry Eddy: Statement of Arms Issued in 1832 (Jan. 1, 1833) Statement shewing the number of arms Issued by the Quarter Master General to supply the volunteers called into service during the spring and summer of 1832, against the Indians and the number returned &c.
Muskets 11 Bayts. 7 Wipers & 5 screws by Capt. Dunn one ramrod & frizen broke.

Likewise, Jim located the following citation in Dictionary of Americanisms, The University of Chicago Press, Chicago, IL, 1951: frizen, frizin, n. [Cf. EDD frizzens, "plow irons."] The frizzle of a flintlock gun; the pan cover or plate struck by the flint. Colloq.--1850 Lewis - La. Swamp Doctor 173, I primed old 'bar death' fresh, and rubbed the frizin, for it war no time for rifle to get to snappin'. 1853 P. Paxton - Yankee in Texas 175 Down I sat, shook out my priming, wiped the frizen, then up again, and taking a long, deliberate aim, touched the hair trigger.

Other investigators have cited military manuals from the 1840s-50s that seem to indicate the use of the word. Indeed, the citation from the Disctionary of Americans (a reprint of a book purportedly published in 1848) has examples of the word "frizin" dated from 1850 and later. However, the lone citation from Whitney's book appears to indicate the existance of the word in 1832.

CONCLUSION: While the evidence suggests that the term "frizzle" of "frizen" or "frizzen" did exist in 1832-3, the use of the term or its citation is so rare in period texts, journals, and accounts as to discount its widespread use in historical recreation circles today. Clearly the military manuals, etc. of the period used the expression "hammer." The words "steel" or "battery" also appear to be correct.

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Very interesting; thanks for posting that. Mark Tulley publishes a great little magazine called "The Society of 18th Century Gentlemen's Magazine". Emery
 
The Germans used the French term "Batterie". I don't know what the English generally called it. The current English tendency is to say "steel", but my feeling is that this is a totally modern convention.
 
My Camp Buddy,Bozo calls my flintlock a Scratch Gun and he's English....I think. :confused:
 
I had read similar articles several years ago that the frizzen was originally called the hammer...and the leather stalls I had made were originally called hammer stalls, not frizzen covers...

Plus, the phrase 'hammer stall' sounds more cool :grin:
 
One of my books is a small collection of works by 1930's era gunsmith T.B.Tryon, collected from old articles in the American Rifleman. He states that the English called this part of the lock the Hammer, while American frontiersmen called it the Chop. :hmm:
 
Could it have been some frustrated dyslexic typist who got the "G" and the "Z" mixed up on his keyboard?
:grin:
 
Mowrey50 said:
As for the term ”˜frizzen,’ there simply was no such word in the 18th-century; in fact I could not find ”˜frizzen’ listed in ANY dictionary, new or old, including the huge, multi-volume Oxford Dictionary of the English Language.

As an Oxonian, I must for the record state that if the OED doesn't list it as an English word, then it ISN'T an English word! :haha: (My wife and I have a running argument of many years standing on this sort of issue, actually.)

I shall henceforth cease referring to that part of a lock as a "frizzen". :wink:

Hmm, then again, calling it "the part previously know as a frizzen" IS a bit long, though. :hmm: :rotf:

I have newly-published book, "Weapons". (Lots a great pictures by the way, from stone axes through modern sniper rifles). Throughout the book "the part previously known as a frizzen" is referred to as the "striking steel", or just the steel.
 
http://www.gunsmithy.com/lock.html some various languages of lock parts. Some folks say frizzen is a muddling of "Feuer eisen" but as you can see in Dutch and German it is called the Stahl/staal (steel. I have not been able to find that reference in any German language text. However it may be a muddling of "Feuerzeug" or fire thing. A term you occasionally see used, also for flint and steel or a modern cigaretter lighter. You tend to find the switching from cock to hammer in the post percussion era, when the components were sometimes referred to as hammer and anvil. In flinters (and wheellocks for that matter) the cock looks a great deal like the head of a rooster. And cocking started with the command "handle your cock".

I am also of the opinion that this "hammer" is what the old manuals are referring to when they speak of knapping a flint with the hammer. With empty barrel and pan set your cock in the fired position. Press your thumb against the back of the hammer against the top of the flint. Pull the cock back to 1/2 cock. Repeat 2 or 3 times, you'll find fine flakes of flint in your pan, and your flint will be freshened and perfectly aligned with the face of your hammer. But again this is done with an unloaded unprimed firelock.

Bryan K. Brown
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Alle künst ist umsunst wenn ein Engle auf dem Zundlocke brünst.
 
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CONCLUSION: While the evidence suggests that the term "frizzle" of "frizen" or "frizzen" did exist in 1832-3, the use of the term or its citation is so rare in period texts, journals, and accounts as to discount its widespread use in historical recreation circles today. Clearly the military manuals, etc. of the period used the expression "hammer." The words "steel" or "battery" also appear to be correct.


Clark's Journal, Sep. 16, 1805:

I saw 4 Black tail Deer to day before we Set out which came up the mountain and what is Singular Snaped 7 tims at a large buck. it is Singular as my gun has a Steel frisen [5] and never Snaped 7 times before in examining her found the flint loose to describe the road of this day would be a repitition of yesterday excpt the Snow which made it much wors to proseed as we had in maney places to derect our Selves by the appearance of the rubbings of the Packs [6] against the trees which have limbs quiet low and bending downwards

[emphasis added].
 
Steel is a fairly ancient term, as well, as this very humorous bit illustrates:

Northampton County, Virginia, Orders, Deeds, &c., No. 1, 1632-1640

A Cort holden at Acckawmacke 8th day of September[url] 1634...In[/url] the first place upon the Complaynt of Phillipp Taylor agst John Little for abusing his house in goinge to bed to the mayd of the syd Taylor's and the next day the syd Little being at worke in the ground wth a Company of men boasted that the Cock was up, and the Steale down and reddy to give fire, but as the syd Little confesseth he was disturbed, It is there fore ordered that the syd John Little shall for the syd offence lay neck and hyels close for 3 hours And for as much as the syd Little Confirmeth himself to be drunk at that tyme It is there fore ordered that for the sd offence he shall pay 5s according to a Statute, unto Walter Scott Prvst Marshall.


Rod
 
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I was looking at my copy of Kindig just now, and noted that Leonard Reedy's account book records the use of both "hammer" and "frizen" during the period 1819 to 1837. So, "frizen" and "hammer" were used interchangably during this period.
 
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