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Hello everyone. im new to the forum and to flintlocks and wanted to know what the most accurate flintlock rifle caliber is? I've heard some say it would be .45 cal. I know how much powder you use is a big part of accuracy, I want the most accurate shot at 300 yards, so what caliber rifle should i buy?
thank you
 
300 yards is a LONG way with a PRB.

According to Hornady's ballistic calculator http://www.hornady.com/ballistics-resource/ballistics-calculator

With a 137 gr. 45 cal PRB and a BC of .065, assuming a 100 yard zero, starting out at 1800 fps, you will have about 31" of bullet drop at 200 yards, and 115" of drop at 300.

You better be dang good at range estimation!
 
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Whatever one I'm behind!!! :haha:

Caliber has nothing to do with it...

For what purpose will you be using this flinter for???
 
300 yards is a loooong way off, .45 cal. should be a 75 yard or less rifle. If you want a 300 yard rifle, well its like the man says, 30-06 with a scope.
 
A 12 pounder. :grin:

A long time ago I used to shoot at a range that had a 400m berm. With a .54caliber and 120grs of 2F, if you aimed about 20 feet over the gong and the wind wasn't blowing, you might hit it on the 10th or 11th try. I guess at 300yards, maybe 15 feet over the target.

Now if you get into the bench guns with really heavy barrel, false muzzle, paper patch bullets, that's a different game. But round ball, luck and Kentucky windage is what's going to let you hit the targe. IMHO.
 
At that range, point your rifle towards the target, give it about 45 degree elevation. say a small prater to the black powder gods and pull the trigger :rotf:
 
Your new to this so I will be gentle. This is a close range game. If you want to play long range that's cool but you will need to stick to modern centerfire. If you want to play with our toys then you don't ask how far can I shoot, instead ask how close can I get :thumbsup:
 
This is a very difficult question to answer. First, a muzzleloading rifle is not intended for shooting at 300 yards. But if this is just a hypothetical question, I will say this, the heavier the ball, the better it will resist wind effects. However, it must have sufficient velocity to carry it at the flattest trajectory possible. This raises the next problem and that is the fact that the more weight the ball has, the more chamber pressure it takes to push it to a desired velocity. There comes a point at which the breach of the rifle has to be big enough to handle the pressures. Let's say that you choose a .54 caliber rifle to buck the wind better than a .45 caliber ball. Then to get it to the target fast enough to minimize wind effects and to be able to hit the target with any reasonable probability, you could need to have a very heavy barrel such as is found on bench guns. It is a tangled mess when one wants to shoot with reasonable accuracy at what is considered extreme ranges for a muzzleloading rifle shooting a patched round ball.

So, what is the best caliber rifle for shooting at targets at 300 yards? In my opinion it would be a rifle with a caliber of somewhere between .50 and .58 with the ball pushed at the highest reasonably achieved velocity. Design a barrel around that and then design the rifle based on that barrel and you have it.
 
marylander98 said:
Hello everyone. im new to the forum and to flintlocks and wanted to know what the most accurate flintlock rifle caliber is? I've heard some say it would be .45 cal. I know how much powder you use is a big part of accuracy, I want the most accurate shot at 300 yards, so what caliber rifle should i buy?
thank you
With all due respect, judging from your age, you're new to a great many things. :wink:

Flintlocks are not long range firearms. That doesn't mean they can't lob a ball 300 yards, it means it's not practical.

I guess the question is - what is your reason for wanting to shoot any muzzleloader 300 yards?
 
There is actually a percussion rifle that fits your requirement. The Confederates used it in very small numbers during the Civil War. It is the English made Whitworth Rifle and it was 45 caliber. It used a long hex shaped bullet in it's hex shaped bore. Many had telescopic sights and they're accounts of shots being made over 1000 yards. This was the pinnacle of the muzzleloading rifle.

Reproductions of this rifle have been produced in recent years along with molds for it's peculiar bullet. Era scopes are available too but rifle scope and mold will cost into the thousands of dollars. Probably as much or more than a full house custom made flintlock longrifle.

For all purposes a flintlock with a .45 round ball is better for 75 yards in.
 
Great advice. If shooting round ball for 300 yards I would favor a .54 bench gun with a 1 in 66 to 1 in 70 twist. Preferably a long barreled, heavy gun from 15 pounds on up. But you are going to burn a lot of powder and lead.
 
Wait until the end of the month when the results of the 400 yard shooting contest are in (see members online shooting contest forum), find out what the winner was shooting and go from there.
 
I would go with the biggest bore size possible. Like 58 or 62. The bigger the ball its not as deflected by wind. Though in general round balls make poor bullets
 
Your question leads me to believe you've read the post about the Indian that was picking off soldiers at 400 yards with his flintlock?

If so, the question is understandable.

The answer isn't so easy though.

Flintlock rifles and muskets always shot a round lead ball and round ball's in any caliber aren't very accurate beyond 150 yards.

The slightest breeze can move them off target by distances measured in feet at ranges of 150 yards or more.

Because the round ball isn't very aerodynamic it looses speed quickly at that distance so it ends up falling very fast. Take your garden hose outside and spray some water across the yard.
Notice how once the stream starts falling, the further it goes the faster it falls.
That's what happens to the roundballs we muzzleloaders shoot too.

This is why most of us don't consider a roundball shooting flintlock (or cap lock) to be a long range firearm that can be used at a 300 yard range.

Later on in time during the Percussion years some target shooters (and a few snipers) used elongated bullets to shoot at ranges far beyond 300 yards.
Generalizing a bit, these guns were heavy and quite fussy about their loads.


Because of the weight of the long bullets they fired they were usually not larger than .50 caliber.

In any case, the accuracy of a muzzleloader depends more on the shooters ability and the quality of the guns build rather than the caliber.
 
Too many people want to shoot far, sharpen your hunting skills instead, learn how to stalk close or wait patiently for the animal to wander by! Roundbal has taken some very nice deer, check out his photos, he doesn't shoot too far!
 
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