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Most accurate flintlock rifle caliber?

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A .45 caliber muzzleloader is a 75 yards or less HUNTING rifle. For 100 to 200 yards its a paper target or steel Gong rifle. For me I do not believe a .45 cal. has enough penetrating power to take (ie. kill in a humane manner) deer at better than 75 yards. You may put a fatal shot on him at 100+ but the deer may an probably will travel a good ways without leaving a good blood trail to follow. Just my advise from 8 years of hunting and passing up "iffy" shots at 60+? yards, At age 52 and wearing glasses, the eyes just aren't up to estimating range like they use to. An in my book you just don't have enough time to use a range finder before the deer are gone. also, while I'm on a roll, Using more powder may and probably will not be more accurate than using a more moderate charge of powder.
 
Sorry for not responding, I've spent the last 7 hours doing summer reading for high school. I'm a good shot with my remy 700 bdl, and wanted to see how accurate I would be with a flintlock. so to answer your question just targets
 
Welcome to the forum Marylander98. It's good to see young folks getting interested in the blackpowder sport.

Jeff
 
armakiller said:
A .45 caliber muzzleloader is a 75 yards or less HUNTING rifle. For 100 to 200 yards its a paper target or steel Gong rifle. For me I do not believe a .45 cal. has enough penetrating power to take (ie. kill in a humane manner) deer at better than 75 yards. You may put a fatal shot on him at 100+ but the deer may an probably will travel a good ways without leaving a good blood trail to follow. Just my advise from 8 years of hunting and passing up "iffy" shots at 60+? yards, At age 52 and wearing glasses, the eyes just aren't up to estimating range like they use to. An in my book you just don't have enough time to use a range finder before the deer are gone. also, while I'm on a roll, Using more powder may and probably will not be more accurate than using a more moderate charge of powder.


Strongly disagree. A .45 prb is an effective deer killer up to 100 yards. From experience, I find a .45 ball loses it's 'legs' just past 100 yards and drops like a....well....like a lead ball.
I don't hesitate to shoot a 100 yard deer with mine. Not braggin' here, just fact, none of mine have ever run off so I can't comment on the blood trail.
 
Choosing a caliber really depends on what you want to shoot with it. For deer a .45 is my favorite and a .50 is even a bit better. Small game? A .32, .36 or .40 is the ticket. For targets - especially distant targets - a .45 is still good. But 125 yards is possible with a .45. The best caliber for approaching 200 yards may be the .54.
 
hanshi said:
... The best caliber for approaching 200 yards may be the .54.
Why not .58 or .62? Of course the ball trajectory is more curved, but you know distance, so this is not a problem (I am thinking about target shooting not hunting). Isn't .62 more wind resistant than .58 or .54?
 
That's a fine question. I've yet to finish working out a .62 fitted TC Hawken and I have great hopes on just how much of a distance piece it can be.
Need a tang peep.
 
marylander98 said:
Hello everyone. im new to the forum and to flintlocks and wanted to know what the most accurate flintlock rifle caliber is? I've heard some say it would be .45 cal. I know how much powder you use is a big part of accuracy, I want the most accurate shot at 300 yards, so what caliber rifle should i buy?
thank you
TO do this with a traditional ML requires either something like the wall guns of the Rev-War with bore sizes near an inch and weights of 30-50 pounds or a cloth patched picket.
Next is shot placement. You need to have adjustable sights, a range finder and a book telling you, from prior testing, where to set the sights for a given day/weather/light conditions.
The typical RB rifle of 50-58 caliber is limited to 150 yards max due to the bullet drop past this range. Even for a chance at 150 the rifle needs to be loaded for 1800 fps or more and sighted dead on at 120-130 yards. Past 130 its REALLY difficult. The RB can easily drift a foot or more at this distance in any significant wind.
General Frazier killed at 300. Yeah it can be done. But shooting people on the battlefield is NOT hunting game. Had he been hit in the thigh or arm he would have been out of the fight and that is all that matters. That he dies hours or days later is of no tactical importance. And yes, this shot can be made by an experienced rifleman. But a man is many times deeper from head to foot than a deed from back to brisket.
Call up a ballistics program, enter .070 for a Ballisitc C. and then use velocities from 1750 to 2000 and see what the drop is from 250 to 300 yards.
Bullets. Elongated bullets were virtually unknown in flintlock rifles. By about 1830 the cloth patched picket was in use in target rifles in the east. But its very cumbersome and difficult to load and get good accuracy (better than a paper plate sized group at 40 yards).
"Naked" conicals were not used other than by the military or other specialty uses. These can be dangerous in hunting rifles and even in target rifles such as those used in Longrange ML matches ringed barrels are common. PP is very little better.
So they simply are not a traditional projectile for a ML hunting rifle. Too easy to bulge or burst the barrel.
Longer range? At the velocities obtained with BP you still need adjustable sights, a range finder and a range table with the conical. Wind drift is till extreme compared to modern HV arms.
Hunting with a traditional ML requires a different skill set than hunting with something that shoots enough to allow easy 300-400 yard (or farther with a range finder and range card) shots. Its more like bow hunting and spot and stalk requires the hunter to be able to get within 100-120 yards of the animal by skill and stealth. Its more fun than shooting from 300 which requires far less skill.
Dan
 
If you are going to really shoot long distances for a muzzleloader, the bigger the ball the better. More power is held onto. And bigger balls are not bucked by the wind. 32 cal and other small bores are accurate and light and deadly, but they drift in the wind very easily
 
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