hanshi
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This .62 TVM Early American smoothbore ("fowler") is light, handy (38" barrel) and has a rear sight that does well with both ball and shot. A fine all around gun.
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nice looking smoothie
I do like the lines of a honest Northwest Trade Gun. Good, practical flintlock for hunting.
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Check out Danny Caywood he makes a really nice trade gun. I love mine.
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It's getting wurse with the typos. Indeed 28 ga is about .54 and 24 ga about .58. For shot I prefer the larger bore, for ball, the smaller!
Tulle - "Fusil de Chasse"
Introduced by the French fur trade in the 1670's, the "Fusil de Chasse" was not a trade gun but was the weapon of the Voyageur, the French fur traders and eventually Rodgers Rangers.
The Tulle "Fusil de Chasse" or hunting gun was lighter, with cleaner lines, than the military or trade guns of the era. Imported in large numbers, it saw use in Canada and the Mississippi River valley.
We at Pecatonica feel we have faithfully recreated the "Tulle" gun using modern materials.
Of the Indians, it was written by one of the early French traders: "Une fois qu'ils en auroient connula difference, on ne pourvoit plus leur en faire accepter di'autres". (Once they know the difference, they will not accept anything else).
We know you will feel the same way about our Tulle "Fusil de Chasse
I don't have one but I meant something like this.
Introduced by the French fur trade in the 1670's, the "Fusil de Chasse" was not a trade gun but was the weapon of the Voyageur, the French fur traders and eventually Rodgers Rangers.
The Tulle "Fusil de Chasse" or hunting gun was lighter, with cleaner lines, than the military or trade guns of the era. Imported in large numbers, it saw use in Canada and the Mississippi River valley.
We at Pecatonica feel we have faithfully recreated the "Tulle" gun using modern materials.
Of the Indians, it was written by one of the early French traders: "Une fois qu'ils en auroient connula difference, on ne pourvoit plus leur en faire accepter di'autres". (Once they know the difference, they will not accept anything else).
We know you will feel the same way about our Tulle "Fusil de Chasse
I don't have one but I meant something like this.
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bourgeois,
The most popular bore and/or style may not be what suits your interests and needs best. While you are still exploring the possibilities, may I add for your consideration the Wonderful One-Ounce Bore - 16 gauge. As with all muzzleloaders, it can be loaded up or down, but can comfortably handle heavier charges than lesser bores, if needed, while still being more agile than the 12 (and larger) gauges. This is mine:
Not a light-weight at 7lbs even, I can load it from starlings to geese - haven't been drawn for turkey yet.
Regards,
Joel
The most popular bore and/or style may not be what suits your interests and needs best. While you are still exploring the possibilities, may I add for your consideration the Wonderful One-Ounce Bore - 16 gauge. As with all muzzleloaders, it can be loaded up or down, but can comfortably handle heavier charges than lesser bores, if needed, while still being more agile than the 12 (and larger) gauges. This is mine:
Not a light-weight at 7lbs even, I can load it from starlings to geese - haven't been drawn for turkey yet.
Regards,
Joel
"I don't have one but I meant something like this."
You would probably like this type of gun. I have a French Fusil myself based on a gun from the armoury at TVLLE (alternate pre 1745 spelling), Petaconica and many others miss the mark with their descriptions quite often FWIW, and for your benifit in the furure when conversing of these guns "Tulle" is a town in France where guns were made to the Kings specs/contracts typicaly hunting guns and guns for the Marines and militia not for the Native trade so much, one cannot trust to most vendors descriptions of these and ogften other types of guns, it is best to do ones own homework or dissapontment may follow if buying soley on the word/knowledge of some vendors always look for second and third opinions to colaborate the facts and doing ones own study is fun as well as reassuring, one has to buy the correct parts and build or have someone build to the proper specs if one of these cows foot style French Fusils is wanted, not trying to flame you out on this post but suspected you had seen the term in its typical incorrect usage, good luck if you should choose one of these in the future just beware of folks trying to sell you a "Town" that shoot balls and shot.
You would probably like this type of gun. I have a French Fusil myself based on a gun from the armoury at TVLLE (alternate pre 1745 spelling), Petaconica and many others miss the mark with their descriptions quite often FWIW, and for your benifit in the furure when conversing of these guns "Tulle" is a town in France where guns were made to the Kings specs/contracts typicaly hunting guns and guns for the Marines and militia not for the Native trade so much, one cannot trust to most vendors descriptions of these and ogften other types of guns, it is best to do ones own homework or dissapontment may follow if buying soley on the word/knowledge of some vendors always look for second and third opinions to colaborate the facts and doing ones own study is fun as well as reassuring, one has to buy the correct parts and build or have someone build to the proper specs if one of these cows foot style French Fusils is wanted, not trying to flame you out on this post but suspected you had seen the term in its typical incorrect usage, good luck if you should choose one of these in the future just beware of folks trying to sell you a "Town" that shoot balls and shot.
"tg
Just in case Rich missed yours....." hope you catch mine to" should be [TOO]....HaHa'
Yeah, that is one of my worst grammer issues, I guess I am just stingy with my O's. anymore just typing and having the letter in the right places is a major accomplishment and I used to write a few articles 30+ years ago for local paper and local small mags, who says you never forget?
Just in case Rich missed yours....." hope you catch mine to" should be [TOO]....HaHa'
Yeah, that is one of my worst grammer issues, I guess I am just stingy with my O's. anymore just typing and having the letter in the right places is a major accomplishment and I used to write a few articles 30+ years ago for local paper and local small mags, who says you never forget?
You would probably like this type of gun.
I'm sure your right, and no flame taken. I love the style of this type of smoothbore. It would fit very well into my geographical area for the 18th C. I haven't researched them enough to claim I know the details of them yet. Someday I would love to have one on my gun rack. :v
I'm sure your right, and no flame taken. I love the style of this type of smoothbore. It would fit very well into my geographical area for the 18th C. I haven't researched them enough to claim I know the details of them yet. Someday I would love to have one on my gun rack. :v
Tg's point is that "Tulle" is a place - an armory. They made firearms from the very early 1700's on through to the relatively modern Lebel, Kropatchek and Gras bolt actions and the MAT sub-machine gun. The town itself was a producer of firearms from the 1600's.
It's like saying "Springfield". Could be M1903, M1 Garand or 1861 musket. "Tulle" doesn't describe a single type of firearm.
It's like saying "Springfield". Could be M1903, M1 Garand or 1861 musket. "Tulle" doesn't describe a single type of firearm.
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Joel - What a beauty. If she ever wants to leave home I have some rain forest grouse country she would love to belch white smoke in. nice.
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I have a Bobby Christian "carolina smoothbore" that I bought from the classifieds here,it does very well with PRB (not really patched but that is another story) and has made the tree bacon here in E Tn very wary :haha: It too is 20gauge/62 caliber,I'm happy with it,sparks well and looks pretty good for not a lot of $$$.His son Greg builds a lot of these too just up the road from TVM,all good 'ole mississippi boys :wink:
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redwing said:
The barrels are a bit robust which I generally prefer for shooting ball. I ordered mine with a rear sight as I wanted a prb gun that could also handle shot rather than the other way around. What I didn't want was a "wing" gun; I have a modern 20ga for that. Mine weighs between 7 lbs and 7.5 lbs so it's not a featherweight. I also like the fact that the barrel doesn't "whip" around like a can pole. For wing shooting I would want something shorter and with (maybe) a lighter barrel. I envision this TVM as a deer gun (1st), then a turkey, squirrel, rabbit gun (2nd). I love this gun.
The idea that a heavier gun = less recoil is a non issue with me. It could be a pound lighter and I'd still be just as satisfied. I don't particularly LIKE recoil but am fairly immune to it's affect. I'm small but numb as a stump (that's "numb" not "dumb"....or on second thought.... :hmm: ); it doesn't affect my shooting at all. For some time I've thought about how nice it would be to have a trade gun, say .54 or maybe .58; may never happen, though.
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If their barrel profile is fixed, that'd be another point in favor of a 16ga in that model. That'd peel some more steel off the inside of the bore, and should lighten it noticeably.redwing said:
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Joel
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I'm sure she'd enjoy that, but she's staying here in the prairies and foothills for the time being - she's my favorite firelock. She came here through the coincidence of a couple of items of good fortune and one of self-indulgent weakness. I'd always thought a flint double was a most wonderful thing but never expected to have one.ladOregon said:
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Joel
