Mountain Men tomorrow.....

[LeMat1856]

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. dec 5 / 10:55pm

hey all,

is this new or another rerun ?

(all times and dates might be pacific, with so many channels, tv guides, time zones, i really don't know for certain - ha!)
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Title: 10pm - mid history channel - mountain men

Date: Saturday December 6, 2008
Time: 10:00 pm - 12:00 am
Notes: 10-12am -- Mountain Men -
Join us as we trek across America's vast wilderness with the fur trappers who helped open up the unknown and savage land, and risked
everything for a life of adventure, money, and wanderlust. Although their era (1807-1840) lasted little more than a generation, their impact was enormous as they blazed across the west. Highlights of this 2-hour special include an interview with author Robert Utley and narration by Pernell Roberts.


i'm going to tape it at least.

~daniel~

 

[tg]

It is likely the same one as before, entertaining but don't use it to bone up on a history test,my favorite part is when Hugh Glass is crawling up the hill circa 1820 and you can see the cartridge loops on his belt

 

Cartridge loops! Wow! That's funny! I remember seeing the old movie "Man From the Alamo." Glenn Ford had a cap and ball pistol! Cool! I wish that Davey and Travis would have had AK47s!

 

[tg]

It's worth watching I taped it years ago and still watch it on a rainy day now and then, the one guy with the tall kinda hat and what looks to be a TC maybe and some funny boots ....well his whole outfit looks 30 years later in history is in it a lot he mustt have been the booshway of the club that supplied the re-enactors.I think they show photographs also with repeaters...go figure that one, I still like it.If i have it on and my wife comes into the room she just says "good lord not again don't say a word to me about accuracy" then goes and finds another TV to watch

 

[omarick1948]

TG....Man, your wife sounds like mine! She is always giving me HELL when we watch an old or even modern movie and I sit there and laugh or comment about it's authenticity in props etc.... :rotf:

I love it in the "PATRIOT" movie to watch some of the actors turning away and grimicing as they shoot their flintlocks!....Talk about FLINCHLOCK!!

 

[schloss]

I was watching something on the history channel a while back, and it was discussing the movement from the flintlock over to the caplock on muskets, and the know-it-all on camera made a few comments just like that - saying that the flint was less accurate because shooters just had to turn their face away from the gun when it was fired.

I thought it was pretty ridiculous, but my wife believed it.

 

[10 gauge]

The Movie The Good the Bad and the Ugly, had a seen where they blew up the bridge during the civil war with dynamite. Nitro was not in action then at that time. :shake:

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

I especially like the scene where the mountain man loads his Italian made "Hawken" by pouring powder down the barrel straight from the horn! Still, there is a lot of good stuff in the show. :thumbsup:

 

[LeMat1856]

now i really do have to see it !

maybe it should be listed under "comedy" instead of documentary...

good for a laugh is good enough for me.

~d~

 

[outdoorman]

Billy Bob Thornton made a movie about the Alamo a year or two ago, and I noticed he looked away a time or two when he shot his rifle.

Generally, I overlook these mistakes and try to take them for their entertainment value.

But the "Mountain Men" on the History Channel---it would be nice if they tried to be a little more accurate sometimes. I still enjoy watching it on DVD though.

Outdoorman

 

[Kentuckywindage]

:haha: those hollywood fakes dont even shoot the real deal and they still cant handle it.

Just remember another miracle shot. The mountain men: Henry at the beginning of the movie when they are fighting the blackfeet by the river, an indian peaks out from behind a log and Henry shoots him stone cold dead.....
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Ever notice the missing front sight on Henry's rifle? :rotf: :rotf:

 

[outdoorman]

I'll have to check that out. I believe the best shooting I ever saw in a movie though was Joey Bishop in "Texas Across the River". All he did was point his gun and say "Bang". Killed an Indian every time! :rotf:

Outdoorman

 

[davemcg]

:haha: those hollywood fakes dont even shoot the real deal and they still cant handle it.

Just remember another miracle shot. The mountain men: Henry at the beginning of the movie when they are fighting the blackfeet by the river, an indian peaks out from behind a log and Henry shoots him stone cold dead.....
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Ever notice the missing front sight on Henry's rifle? :rotf: :rotf:

That was actually intentional, it helps to get off those Hollywood snap shots, you don't have to mess with those cofusing sight patterns, lining up that front blade thingy with the notched doohickie in the back and such things, just point in the general direction an' fire away, get a clean kill everytime!

 

[tg]

The history channels stuff is ok for intertaiment but I would not use it as a source with out closely checking the written text the fims is usuall way off I watched on yesterday on Washibtons Generals and they had a lot of stuff on Morgans riflemen but everytime they showed his riflemen in action all I could see was muskets with round barrels and iron ramrods even in the Murphy scene when he popped the Brit general after a couple of trys he was using what looked to be a round barreled gun with iron rammer, I tried hard to find a rifle and I can't say for sure I saw one.

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

There was one rifle way in the back in one scene, but there was a horse in the way and nobody could see it... :grin:

 

[brubincam]

-----did you see the guy with the percussion rifle ???----- :surrender: :surrender: :surrender:

 

[omarick1948]

How come this topic always generates a "NIT PICKING ATTTUDE"? :hmm: ... Let's be a little grateful for the media exposure and movies we do see out there!

These TV programs and Movies are for entertainment..That's All!..Beats more UFO sighting shows anyways!

Rick :thumbsup:

 

[PaulN/KS]

Yep! What he said... :thumbsup:

 

[Russ T Frizzen]

I suppose the problem comes when the program airs on the history channel and claims to tell the the story in an historically accurate fashion--and then doesn't.

 

[T.C.Albert]

Theres a great "Mock-U-Mentary" called ""The Making of Daniel Boone that totally adresses exactly these issues...more information about it is available on the Boone Society web page under "articles": http://www.boonesociety.org/
This movie goes to great lenghts to purposely overdarmatize the historic fo-pas that productions from Hollywood and the History channel
etc usually perpetuate....
TCA