Muzzleloaders illegal in New Jersey?

[HistoryBuff]

I read a post on slashdot about smart gun technology in NJ. Apparently, once smart gun technology is proven to work, no gun can be sold in the state without it. Will this include muzzleloaders and antique firearms?

HistoryBuff

 

The smart technology hasn't solved a crime yet, so it may be a while, and where are they gonna get the money. The State of New Joisey is losing their Fedral Pittman funds because of their ban on bear hunting. Thats about two mil. that the state game people won't have in their budget next year. No disrespect but I'm sure glad I don't live in the Garden State.

 

[BLAHMAN]

The smart technology hasn't solved a crime yet, so it may be a while, and where are they gonna get the money. The State of New Joisey is losing their Fedral Pittman funds because of their ban on bear hunting. Thats about two mil. that the state game people won't have in their budget next year. No disrespect but I'm sure glad I don't live in the Garden State.

Bill, are you sure that isn't BARE hunting? :crackup: :crackup:

 

[2172]

Bill, Amen! I moved out 10 years ago, and say a thank you prayer every morning.. it is sad, as I had hiked and hunted over every inch of that state, and loved it, its history and the other "Jerseymen" I met...and it began to shift, at an ever faster rate....I tend to blame the influx of NY city bred people for the shifting attitudes...as the influx seemed to coincide with the shift to a growing "Northeasternism"...Hank

 

[bob1961]

yup lived in south bruswick twp....after coming from new bruswick and highland park....then moved up here in nov 84...........bob

 

[leadball]

We have relatives that lived near bridgewater. It is a foreign land. They hate hunting and fishing and I also am thankful I lived in Northern Mn/Wisc where you are viewed as alien if you do not hunt and fish

 

[GregK]

When I was growing up in Washington NJ (Warren Co) most of my high school buddies hunted and fished. You could even get an excused day off of school for the opening day of deer season.
Now this was 35 yrs ago. I used to bow hunt for deer within walking distance of my house. Things have changed.

 

[Gary]

In response to the original question, how does NJ define firearm? If MLs are included, yep, you would have to have a smart flintlock. However, you couldn't show up @ the rendezvous with that chip carrying gun. It's not traditional. :haha:

 

[2172]

The last time I checked, NJ includes muzzleloaders in the definition of firearms...BB guns, too. In the early 1970's, NJ had an especially nasty, anti gun Attorney General..name of Sills. As the BP craze grew, he so interpreted the then-existing statutes...he lost a case in the state Supreme Ct. and that had the effect of throwing bp guns into a limbo that lasted for about 14 or 15 months. I scraped together my pennies and bought my Euroarms .36 Remington during that time period, just because I could. When Sills stopped his hissy fits, the legislators gave him a bill that included muzzleloaders as "firearms"...but, as a sop to shooters, they also included BB guns, air rifles and pistols and CO2 guns as "firearms"...prior to that they'd been on the same "banned weapons" list as sawed off shotguns and machine guns.
While it let folks get bb guns then, the effect now is that a chap shooting a Red Ryder in his back yard is guilty of discharging a firearm under the no discharge ordinances that many municipalities have. 20 years ago, my son shot himself in the hand with a .177 bb from a crossman rifle...today, I'd be looking at five years in prison for providing a firearm to a minor, and for his 'gunshot' wound...even back then, it was reported to the police as a gunshot wound...luckily, we were still rural enough to have the kind of cop who said, "oh, for pete's sake..I have a bb in my foot to this day..." Hank

 

[longshot47]

Yep! Damn near everythins illegal -cept illegals!!