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James Beardsley

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Any pet loads for this .45 Patriot would be appreciated. I've been looking for one for 25 years and just found this one unfired and in the box. 3500 is stamped on the barrel flat under the rear sight. Might that give an idea of year of production? Thanks, James
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No way to know by serial number but bein’ as it doesn’t have the brass nosecap it is an early one.
 
Any pet loads for this .45 Patriot would be appreciated. I've been looking for one for 25 years and just found this one unfired and in the box. 3500 is stamped on the barrel flat under the rear sight. Might that give an idea of year of production? Thanks, JamesView attachment 53117
30 grains of 3F under a snug (not too tight, don’t want to bust the stock) patched roundball is what I remember as a target load. TC max recommended load was 35 grains of 3F. DOM is hard to establish because of TC factory fire destroying most of their records, but @bubba.50 is correct about it being an early one. I have a TC manual dated May 1979 and it shows the brass nose piece. I purchased a used one in the late 1970s with no brass nose piece. TC replaced the stock around 1980 and it had the brass nose piece if my way back memory is working correctly.
 
I have a 45 caliber Kentucky pistol. I've loaded it up with as much as 40 grains of 3f Swiss powder.
20 grains is good for target shooting.
For a max load, I have settled on 30 grains 3f, with a patched ball.
 
Thanks all. I knew they were a little delicate. That's why they're hard to find. I think I'll try 25gr. FFF. Now I need to find or cast some .435 round balls. This one came with the TC mold and handles. I'll unwrap the mold and see what it's marked and get patches when I know what size ball it drops. I figure $10.00 per year of looking I came out pretty good.
 
Welcome to the board, Jim ! 🙂

The Patriot won't stand heavy loads very long before the stock breaks; and it should also be loaded in the hands ILO a vertical stand, to also avoid stock damage from ramming the ball home.

Here's suggested loads, directly from the horse's mouth:

http://www.tiropratico.com/manuali-pdf/T/Thompson-Center_Patriot_Supplement.pdf
As @Pietro pointed out, loading stand style shown on page 4 of the TC Patriot manual Supplement was a real stock buster, as it did not support stock in line with the barrel. My original stock (and others) broke where the red arrow is pointing while loading. Suggest you just grip the barrel and stock about where the wedge is when you load. Replacement stocks are hard to come by.
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I shot one of those for years, using the .440 size ball, and 30 grains of 3F. It always shot good and a friend needed one so I passed it on to him. It had been about 15 or 20 years since I had shot it, and the friend doesn't shoot anymore....so one day he sent me 3 pistols including the TC. I took it out and it still does a good job with the same old load. He is really a good old friend !
 
As @Pietro pointed out, loading stand style shown on page 4 of the TC Patriot manual Supplement was a real stock buster, as it did not support stock in line with the barrel. My original stock (and others) broke where the red arrow is pointing while loading. Suggest you just grip the barrel and stock about where the wedge is when you load. Replacement stocks are hard to come by. View attachment 53122
Good post, SDSmlf! It should be required reading for anyone who has or shoots single-shot muzzleloading pistols. I built a stand of that general type for my Lyman pistol, and intend to build one or two more for pistols acquired since then. The stands are great for display, "grounding" the pistol at the range, and loading powder, but the pistol should be removed from the stand, pointed in a safe direction, and held by the barrel for ramming a ball or wad, and even for use of a tight-fitting jag and patch for cleaning.

I've seen several examples of old pistols broken in exactly the spot indicated by the red arrow in the picture. That's the area that gets the most stress when the butt is rested against an unforgiving surface during loading, and is also probably the weakest part of the stock.

Notchy Bob
 

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